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June 20, 2003 at 2:05 pm #46124
Think Senator Hatch has backtracked a bit on his idea of teaching people a lesson by having filesharers computers destroyed via downloaded file, wonder if it had anything to do with his site using pirated software

Interesting cloaking device out there for file sharers, apparently the programmer developed the program after audiogalaxy was shutdown last year…revenge
June 20, 2003 at 2:33 pm #94472Who says politics can’t be funny?
June 21, 2003 at 11:27 am #94473Further proof of the already known fact that politicians are hypocrites.
Hatch is the piece of shit from Utah, right? So when’s that Elizabeth Smart tv movie coming out…? I bet the media was pissed that the feel good story of the decade was dropped into distant memory by a bullshit "war". Lame all around.
June 26, 2003 at 8:21 am #94474Yeah, politicians suck here in Canada as well. Sad thing is I don’t see any positive alternatives coming out for our big election next year…scary
Unless of course SG runs on that Ramones platform he was talking about 
That cloaking device I linked to above sounds like a pretty good idea today, dirty bastards @ the riaa are starting to gather evidence for lawsuits against individual p2p users, check the article below
June 26, 2003 at 9:21 am #94475It`ll be called the Gabba Gabba Hey campaign
July 24, 2003 at 8:47 am #94476Dirty bastards @ the riaa are sending out subpoenas to some Kazaa & Grokster users. Theres a small list of user names from kazaa in the following link…
August 12, 2003 at 1:05 pm #94477Finally some good news, MIT & a Boston University don’t have to give the RIAA students names who are sharing online music
It’s a start, will make it much harder for them to send out those mass subpoenas they seem to love. Rather than doing it in a single location, currently filed in washington dc, they may have to file in every state/county where they suspect users live

riaa suffers setback :aliensmile:
August 16, 2003 at 11:43 am #94478Norm Coleman launching senate investigation into riaa tactics, calls them excessive… :aliensmile:
:aliensmile:August 18, 2003 at 11:39 am #94479Is it remotely possible that the whole reason sales are3 down is becuz no one feels like paying $15, and usually a lot more, for music? On my last visit to a Virgin Records store, I swear the average cost of a new release is somewhere btwn $16-$20. That’s a lot of money for 30-45 minutes of tunes. Thank god for used cd stores where the typical CD sells for $2 and up.
And how about these new sharing sites where you pay 99 cents per song? After I pay for an entire album worth of songs, I might as well have bought the original in the store and gotten the CD, case, and artwork. What’s the point?
Is it even more possible that sharing MP3’s might actually contribute to an increase in sales? If it hadn’t been for our group sharing files on AudioGalaxy, I would have never gone out and bought all the White Stripes, Hellacopters, Fugazi, new Sonic Youth, Cat Power, Yo La Tango, Built To Spill, and various other albums I now own. Without the file sharing, I would never have bought these albums just on a whim, not to mention the fact that I would have never bought numerous other albums becuz I’d never even heard of the bands. Not to mention the countless of concerts I’ve gone to in the past year (Sonic Youth, Mike Watt, Bettie Serveert, Frank Black and the Catholics, Yo La Tango, Doug Mersch, Juliana Hatfield (next month), and various others) and paid money for, because I was exposed to these artists through file sharing. Not to mention all the other peole I’ve turned onto new bands and went out and bought albums becuz they heard the music on my MP3 player while they were over hanging out and wanted to know who that was we were listening to.
I think, all in all, sharing music should increase sales becuz people are gaining exposure to bands that would otherwise be non-existant to them!!! Granted there are peole who will take advantage of this situation for there own benefit, but I think most people eventually buy the album a particular song is on, plus additional albums becuz they end up liking that artist and want more of their work.
Maybe the music industry should reconsider its stance (and prices). Shutting down and going after these sites and people in a court of law WILL NOT jumpstart music sales. I personally can guarantee I will never spend money on a CD I’ve never heard of!!! Just my two cents
August 18, 2003 at 11:53 am #94480it seems to me that if you really wanted to have an impact on "music piracy" then you should go after a lot more than just sites and people that share files. What’s stoppng one person from buying a disc and then burning ten copies for all their friends. I’ll tell you what, you pay me for the burnable disc (25 cents) and the cost of shipping (very inexpesive) and I’ll send you copy of every disc I have. See, did this really stop the the illegal copying and sharing of music? HELL NO!!!
You should go after all the companies that make recordable discs. You should make cd burners illegal. You should outlaw modems that have the ability to transfer data files of a musical nature (which in effect, is all modems). You should outlaw any other device that can convert data into other forms that are then transferable to various carriers of information i.e. rippers, mp3 players, etc.. Crash the whole internet, becuz that’s where music sharing occurs. And what about people who have the consent to share an artists music such as certain individuals do here at this site? Are these situations subject to lawsuits since the music industry is gaining no profit from the transfer of these files?
This whole thing is BS!!! Fuck the music industry. I’ll buy my CD’s directly from the artist whenever possible so that the music industry gets no profit. Hey J, burn me a copy, and I’ll send you ten bucks for your new release, if we can cut out the middle man. Send me the original, and I’ll burn as many as I can and distribute them for a small profit (as compared to a large one). That way, your album still gets sold and puts the bulk of the money in your pocket, rather than paying for "marketing".
I read somewhere that the average artists only gets 10% or less of the commission for every CD that sells. Where does all the money go? Corporate pockets. It doesn’t cost the remaining 90% to mass produce and distribute these albums. That’s the whole point of mass production. It should make everything CHEAPER! Screw your labels and over priced cd’s!!! Down with the music industry, up with the artists!!!
August 18, 2003 at 12:42 pm #94481Nice rant Kurticus
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and good to hear from you
August 18, 2003 at 1:16 pm #94482Definitely appreciate the rant, makes a lot of sense

Canadian recording industry association is starting to sent out im’s on filesharing sites…

Their little catch phrase is …remember you need music & music needs you
:slap:BRIEN in the Netherlands is following the riaa’s lead as well…
Gotta love those black boycott riaa tshirts
August 30, 2003 at 6:48 am #94483Here`s a record store that has a new plan to stop downloading:
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August 30, 2003 at 11:04 am #94484
Wonder what the riaa will do about that…sue them for millions of dollars no doubt about it

Here’s a link to an article on the decline in cd sales following a decline in file sharing activity recently. Think it’s too early to make a direct association between the two but…

Dirty bastards…
riaa using digital fingerprints to trace origin of users mp3’s
September 2, 2003 at 5:59 am #94485Dunno if this has been posted here before, but here goes nothing.
How to not get sued by the RIAA for file sharing.
http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php”>http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php
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