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Gas prices, politics, and other social outrages

Forums › Forums › General Discussions › Open Topic › Gas prices, politics, and other social outrages

  • This topic has 29 replies, 12 voices, and was last updated 21 years, 6 months ago by Robert.
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  • May 16, 2004 at 7:10 pm #46984
    K7 Rides Again
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      IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DID NOT
      PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL
      COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.

      AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF OVER
      4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.

      THEREFORE MAY 19TH HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR behind
      "
      DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE
      THAT DAY.

      THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY
      PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

      WAITING ON THIS ADMIINSTRATION TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT
      GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT
      THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?

      REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT THE
      SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE
      FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS
      SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES
      ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

      WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON’T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY, WE
      WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

      SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU
      KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE MAY 19TH A DAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF
      THE
      UNITED STATES SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

      Since I saw the column about Bush sucking ass, and being under the impression that Kerry sucks ass jsut as much, and that the situation in Iraq is fucked, and our rights are eroding, and a whole list of general bullshit, that shows just how much this country is going to hell in a handbasket…I say let’s stand up and start doing something about it. Quit bitching and let’s take a stance :twisted:

      May 17, 2004 at 10:45 am #101882
      king of carrot flowers
      Participant

        although i don’t agree with kerry "sucking as much ass" as bush, i will not buy gas on wednesday. who’s with us??

        May 17, 2004 at 2:46 pm #101883
        AGAP
        Participant

          I am, paying 91.9 cents a litre here, 45 bucks to fill up, month ago it was 54.9 per litre :twisted:

          We have cascading taxes on fuel, pay 7% gst on the excise fuel tax :shock:

          Was considering buying a hybrid car until I read this :?

          May 17, 2004 at 4:09 pm #101884
          jasper
          Participant

            While we Europeans, needless to say, feel for those of you there on the other side of the Atlantic, it’s perhaps worth noting that the Dutch currently pay almost 1.30 euro’s for a litre of gas. That’s about $6 a gallon.

            You have a long way to come yet, USA. We have seen the future — and it’s expensive.

            May 17, 2004 at 7:40 pm #101885
            king of carrot flowers
            Participant
              "Coma Girl" wrote:
              I am, paying 91.9 cents a litre here, 45 bucks to fill up, month ago it was 54.9 per litre :twisted:

              We have cascading taxes on fuel, pay 7% gst on the excise fuel tax :shock:

              Was considering buying a hybrid car until I read this :?

              close to $2 a gallon here in the lonesome crowded east. costs $18 to fill up my ESCORT. i read that too, allison, and basically no one pays attention to their mileage until now. they estimate it takes 7 years to make the money back

              May 18, 2004 at 5:23 am #101886
              Hansione
              Participant

                Last night I payed € 3,00 for one lousy glass of wine (simple rosé), that’s a real problem! :slap:
                Sell the car, buy a bicycle and get healthy and rich too! :mrgreen:

                May 18, 2004 at 6:33 am #101887
                Bucky Ramone
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                  "Hansione" wrote:
                  Last night I payed € 3,00 for one lousy glass of wine (simple rosé), that’s a real problem! :slap:
                  Sell the car, buy a bicycle and get healthy and rich too! :mrgreen:

                  …..and if you don’t drink that rosé, you’ll even get richer and healthier (although not necessarily happier… :twisted: ) :wink:

                  May 18, 2004 at 11:17 am #101888
                  Aatos
                  Participant

                    Well, american cars drink a lot of gas. Too much compared to what the rest of the world does. (remember the kiyoto deal, who did not accept it…?)

                    May 18, 2004 at 11:24 am #101889
                    Mattman
                    Participant

                      I hate to bring reality into the gasout equation, but well, this explains it better than I can

                      May 18, 2004 at 2:25 pm #101890
                      FlyingCloud
                      Participant

                        what I’ve read lately is that the European gasoline spot markets are buyed empty by US traders these days, as they expect the gas consume to be rising in spring, and there is not enough refinery capacities in the US. So they can’t buy the oil & refine it, but buy the gas here directly. this is why the gas price rose faster than the oil price the last weeks.

                        they decided, not to invest in new refineries, but to just buy all gasoline they can get, accepting that the price rises for everyone :|

                        the chain mail is also circulating heavily over here, translated in German, pretending to be from a friend’s friend…

                        (no car, no cry :P )

                        May 18, 2004 at 3:13 pm #101891
                        AGAP
                        Participant
                          "Hansione" wrote:
                          Last night I payed € 3,00 for one lousy glass of wine (simple rosé), that’s a real problem! :slap:
                          Sell the car, buy a bicycle and get healthy and rich too! :mrgreen:

                          Yikes on that glass of wine :shock:

                          I’m spoiled by the car, even with the expense I couldn’t do without it! I think I’d freeze to death in the winter here riding a bike, the frost bite from -40c might interfere with that healthy thing :wink:

                          May 18, 2004 at 5:06 pm #101892
                          king of carrot flowers
                          Participant

                            i can’t afford to live in the town that i work in. and i drive a very fuel efficiant car :)

                            May 18, 2004 at 5:57 pm #101893
                            Bucky Ramone
                            Participant
                              "Coma Girl" wrote:
                              I’m spoiled by the car, even with the expense I couldn’t do without it! I think I’d freeze to death in the winter here riding a bike, the frost bite from -40c might interfere with that healthy thing :wink:

                              …there are some excellent and tasty high-alcoholic anti-freeze fluids available….. :wink: :twisted: (although they might interfere with that healthy thing :wink: :wink: )

                              No car over here as well, bike and an excellent train connection to work are the perfect alternative:

                              dB’s 25 mile home-work journey:
                              car: one hour of rush hour/traffic jam madness if you’re lucky, up to two hours if you’re not…..
                              bike/train: 45 minutes, in which dB reads the newspaper, drinks a cup of coffee (or a beer on the way back home…. :lol: ), and listens to some good music…..

                              May 19, 2004 at 2:57 am #101894
                              Hansione
                              Participant
                                "Coma Girl" wrote:
                                "Hansione" wrote:
                                Last night I payed € 3,00 for one lousy glass of wine (simple rosé), that’s a real problem! :slap:
                                Sell the car, buy a bicycle and get healthy and rich too! :mrgreen:

                                Yikes on that glass of wine :shock:

                                I’m spoiled by the car, even with the expense I couldn’t do without it! I think I’d freeze to death in the winter here riding a bike, the frost bite from -40c might interfere with that healthy thing :wink:

                                Come to my Island….. :wink: :oops:

                                May 19, 2004 at 7:27 am #101895
                                K7 Rides Again
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                                  MAttman-didn’t bring me back to reality…

                                  Obviously people are just going to buy gas on Tues. or Thurs. instead. What I think is cool is that we’re drawing attention to the matter and in reality, if we come together and unite behind a singular issue, we can make change. What it would really take is changing our perceptions and attitudes towards driving. If we collectively started driving less, drove only when necessary (stopping by the store on our way home for work rather than making 10 trips a day to purchase goods), car pooling, using more conservative means (bicycle), etc., we could make a lot of change. That’s what I was really trying to get at here…us getting together…

                                  I wish we had a better infrastructure/public transportation system, but in many places here it’s just not a reality. We have to drive…We’re working on it though :aliensmile:

                                  "Well, american cars drink a lot of gas. Too much compared to what the rest of the world does." :shock: :roll:

                                  Are you fucking kidding me!?
                                  Check this out…http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ene_oil_imp_net_cap”>http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ene_oil_imp_net_cap

                                  Looks like some of our European counterparts sure guzzle their share of gas… :slap:

                                  Also, U.S. standards on emissions are the strictest around, which could mean we also use gas the most efficiently. That is, efficiency is acheived through better combustion (this is way more complex than this, but it’s the general idea), so we are actually getting "more bang for our buck". So I don’t even want to hear "American cars drink a lot of gas"

                                  Bottles of beer at the TRENDY bars around here are going for $5 for a twelve ounce. And I’m not talking danky stuff either…
                                  Corona, 5 bucks, budweiser, 5 bucks, miller light, 5 bucks, Guinness, 5 bucks, Bass, 5 bucks…you get the idea

                                  (there’s one bar though where it’s $5, but it’s a 20 ounce pint, so ounce for ounce, that is pretty comparable to REGULAR prices and is the usual watering spot 8) )

                                  Johnny Walker Blue Label- $25 a shot :shock:

                                  anyways…. :mrgreen:

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