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A billion dollar question: what kind of pedals are J & L

Forums › Forums › Musicians & D.I.Y. Artists › Guitar Room › A billion dollar question: what kind of pedals are J & L

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  • June 5, 2006 at 4:12 pm #49220
    NeonBoulevard
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      I was wandering about Dino’s pedals… Does anybody know what kind of pedals are J and (especially) Lou using during this reunion tour???
      I saw them in Turin and I think I saw J using his midi-pedal-board and a MXR distorsion and Lou some Zvex pedals, but I’m not so sure…
      Could anybody help me???

      June 5, 2006 at 5:42 pm #118073
      darren
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        On the reunion tour Lou uses a Boss TU 2 tuner, a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 and a ZVex Super Hard On.

        June 6, 2006 at 9:09 am #118074
        sweeney
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          Hi Neon, I worked for Dino on the reunion tour. Here’s what’s going on.

          Lou used the Rick into the tuner into the Fulldrive into J’s broken Super Hard On into whatever amps would work that night. The Hard On was just used to split the signal into two amps. At the beginning of the tour he also used a Boss Sampler/Looper and sometimes other distortion pedals. Last summer he used a Pod for a direct signal to the PA.

          J used his Jazzmasters or Rory Gallagher Strat (and once a Goldtop conversion Les Paul and once a Greco LP copy) into a Home Brew Electronics Germania treble booster (looks like a MXR) into his Bradshaw Custom Audio Electronics rack system.

          This has a Marshall midi preamp for rhythm sounds, a Custom Electronics Univbe, CE tremolo, and a Line Six Echo. J used an old Memory Man at first but it broke. The pedals in the rack are an old Big Muff (everything all the way up), a custom made master volume control box to cut the Big Muff output in half for rhythm, a MXR Blue Box, Boss reverb,and an old EH Electric Mistress. On the pedalboard he has the switches for the pedals and a custom made Teese wah and a Boss tuner.

          Be aware that his EH pedals are all very old and the new ones don’t even come close to these sounds.

          His amps are old Marshall Super lead/bass/or PA heads. He also used new hand wired Super Leads which sounded very good but were really no more reliable than the old ones. J also used a tweed Victoria 100W Twin, a purple Vic Twin head, a new Vox AC 30 head, and various rented Fender Twins at different shows.

          Hope that’s a good answer to your question, the band’s management asked me to list this stuff long ago. Your offer of a billion dollars was much more generous than what they offered.

          June 6, 2006 at 10:25 am #118075
          darren
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            thanks for the info on J’s rig – how does he run the JMP 1 pre amp as there’s no power amp in his rack ? – I’ve heard that you can modify amp heads to use their power amp sections to drive a pre amp or does it run to the PA ?

            June 6, 2006 at 11:37 am #118076
            sweeney
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              Darren- He runs it straight into the amps as if it’s an effect. He is also able to bypass it at any point and run straight through the Big Muff. The huge sound he gets, when it is suddenly ten times louder, is the preamp bypassed and the Big Muff straight through, all controls up full. He turns his Marshalls about half way up with all tone controls on full.

              June 6, 2006 at 12:53 pm #118077
              darren
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                thanks a lot sweeney for your answers, it’s great to have the info from someone who really knows J’s setup !

                June 6, 2006 at 4:32 pm #118078
                NeonBoulevard
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                  hey sweeney… i think you’re a genius!
                  could you tell me something more about the ce tremolo and the line 6 echo? does really j uses just those pedals?!? i really thought he used a lot more…
                  many thanks mate!

                  June 6, 2006 at 4:48 pm #118079
                  AGAP
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                    "darren " wrote:
                    thanks a lot sweeney for your answers, it’s great to have the info from someone who really knows J’s setup !

                    Definitely a very cool thing, thanks tons for the info. Curious if this kinda thing happens often…

                    from Ajay’s tour blog

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                    However at the end of the gig, one cheeky chap reached over to where J’s pedals were, and stole his Germania pedal. He made a run out of the venue followed by audience, crew and security. But he got away with it….for now. A bunch of people came to us afterwards and said they knew who he was and the police also came down and made a report. Tedious and boring, the whole affair.
                    June 6, 2006 at 4:58 pm #118080
                    darren
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                      He’ll have to get his HBE Germania pedal put in the rack and control it with his Bradshaw switch system to avoid anyone trying to pinch another one !

                      Quote:
                      does really j uses just those pedals?!? i really thought he used a lot more…

                      that’s all he uses for the reunion tours…..for the later Dinosaur gigs (1993 ish onwards) he used a lot more effects. Around 1997 I think he had the biggest rig regarding effects, the CAE switching system was around 3 times the size of the one he currently has.

                      June 6, 2006 at 6:31 pm #118081
                      sweeney
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                        Neon- The CAE tremolo is a rack unit custom made by Bob Bradshaw, the rack designer. The Line 6 is the discontinued green one rack space model. J used the tremolo a lot more in the Fog, I ran sound on the Spence/Schools tours. I don’t really like that effect much, it diminishes his sound when you’re out front. When you’re standing right at the amps it sounds a lot cooler.

                        The guy who stole the Germania was right up front all night, he was wearing a Pixies shirt. His glasses flew off at one point during the show and they landed onstage. I went out and got them while the band was playing and handed them back to him. When the show was over I went out and grabbed the two guitars and by the time I came back from behind the amps the Germania was gone. It was a very small venue and the pedals were obviously right up front. Some guy told me the Pixies shirt guy had taken it. That’s what I get for being nice to him. Luckilly J had a backup but it didn’t sound as good and wasn’t purple.

                        Darren is right, he used to have racks that were like refridgerators. The setup he has now is pretty simple and very effective.

                        June 7, 2006 at 12:30 am #118082
                        NeonBoulevard
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                          Hey Sweeney, a stupid question… There is any difference between a purple Germania and a yellow Germania? You know I’d reallylike to buy one and you told that that the one j is using now (yellow) doesn’t sound as good as the first one (purple). If J’s Memory Man is broken now, what kind of delay he’s using?
                          Many thanks for all the info!

                          June 7, 2006 at 2:18 am #118083
                          stanner
                          Participant

                            Delay? Line 6 Echo according to what he wrote up above…
                            and thanx so much Sweeney fer that info…
                            been wonderin for a long while…
                            my main question used to be ‘how did J get line level rack efx into the front of his amps(no efx loops)?’
                            not sure if i know the answer still.
                            staninsanfran

                            June 7, 2006 at 8:16 am #118084
                            sweeney
                            Participant

                              Neon- there’s no difference, it’s just the same variation you find in any pedals. The yellow one sounded fine, the purple just had an extra edge to it.

                              Stanner- I think the Marshall preamp has a setting to go between +4 or -10. I never really see the back of it because of the way the rack is configured. J’s heads are definitely not modified with effects loops or to work only as power amps, although these are options for people who prefer things to be more conventional. I wouldn’t be suprised if Bradshaw worked some magic to make the preamp more compatable within the rack itsself.

                              June 7, 2006 at 9:14 am #118085
                              RSTguitars
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                                "sweeney " wrote:
                                Neon- there’s no difference, it’s just the same variation you find in any pedals. The yellow one sounded fine, the purple just had an extra edge to it.

                                Correct me if I’m wrong… but I always thought the yellow ones have the OC44 transistor in them, and the purple ones do not.

                                June 7, 2006 at 9:26 am #118086
                                darren
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                                  Correct me if I’m wrong… but I always thought the yellow ones have the OC44 transistor in them, and the purple ones do not.

                                  thats correct,

                                  The yellow version is called the Germania 44 as it has the OC 44 germanium transistor in it, thats the only circuit difference between the purple and the yellow version

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