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July 12, 2006 at 12:33 pm #49302
Was it removed? Why? I had a nice reply for RST……………..Where did it go?
July 12, 2006 at 12:43 pm #119109It’s gone the way of Sars
July 12, 2006 at 1:08 pm #119110not yet close enough to the election..
July 12, 2006 at 1:16 pm #119111"Annastefka " wrote:Was it removed? Why? I had a nice reply for RST……………..Where did it go?
It died…
July 12, 2006 at 2:15 pm #119112maybe the vaccine works…

guess I missed this one…
July 12, 2006 at 4:50 pm #119113"Annastefka " wrote:I had a nice reply for RSTI’d like to hear what you had to say, because I was being serious… I honestly don’t understand the connection between the bird flu pandemic and a shortage of gas or drinking water.
July 13, 2006 at 1:30 pm #119114"RSTguitars " wrote:"Annastefka " wrote:I had a nice reply for RSTI’d like to hear what you had to say, because I was being serious…
Yeah, I’m back, weird however my posts were removed twice?
Very Weird……………….I have a little time to eeek out, and a toddler wrapped around my leg, I’ll try to
focus my thoughts…………………As for the connection of bird flu and social disruption (ie the shortage of food,water,gas,health care,government services ie.food stamps,welfare,social security checks,medicare payments ect.)
We only need to go back into history, I had the best history teacher in the 11th grade, her name was Mrs. Hotel, that was really her name, the first day of class she taught us a lesson and she spent the whole first day on it and then repeated it through out the year………..needless to say by the end of the year, I understood it………………HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF……………………………….
Quickly, so as not to loose whoever is reading this lets go back to the Pandemic of 1918. Much information can be found on the pandemic of 1918,
go around the net and read…………..Talk about social disruption!This is by far the most informative web-site http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5096/120105_birdflu_2.pdf”>http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5 … dflu_2.pdf and it is written by our government for other people in the government (ie states), in it George Bush says we have a reason for great concern. When the pandemic hits, and experts are saying it is a matter of when not IF, repeat, this is not IF, this is a WHEN, the pandemic hits, there will be……….I can’t cut and past from this government file as it is an acrobat file……..George Bush (the government says) All countries will be affected………………Widespread illness on a global level will occur………Large number of deaths will occur…………….Economic and Social disruption will be great.
Why the economic and social disruption, because folks will be scared to death to leave their house and go to work if a virus is floating around with an 80% death rate. In fact the government plan to halt the spread is to stay home, they plan to ask all of us to stay home, unless your job is of critical importance, ie. police, fire,doctor. I am sure gas station attendant will NOT be considered a critical job, you will be arrested if the break quarantine, the last place you want to be during an outbreak is in jail. The government has plenty of gas don’t worry,fire trucks and police cars do not gas up at the local BP. Extra supplies of gas have already been stocked by most cities. Government offices and schools will be the first to close,No place to send your children for the day, no welfare checks, no foodstamps, no social security checks, for a few months, then come the gangs like New Orleans, the ones shooting at the police helicopters,breaking into stores, yes, now we remember, it seems so long ago,
, really people could not believe people breaking into gun stores and stealing guns and ammo, but the reason was because when you have a baby with out diapers (I use cloth, unless I’m on vacation, so I never run out of diapers but…………) you have a baby with out a diaper, no formula, because Mom chose not to breast feed, so baby is hungry and dirty, no water to drink, and you go CRAZY, it’s normal, you go nuts, unless you have plenty of water,food,diapers,etc……The government site says………………social disruption will be great due to expected forced quarantine. Critical workers not under quarantine may be absent from work because of fear and/or sickness. That’s the Gas shortage part.
Oh, the water thing, the avian flu, begins in and is hosted in the intestinal tracks of ducks………..you can read about that here………….http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5096/120105_birdflu_2.pdf”>http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5 … dflu_2.pdf most city reservoirs are open air, like ours in Athens, it is always full of Ducks, ducks just love big chunks of nice fresh water, they unfortunately poop in it, all the time, once the human to human form of the virus emerges, that human to human form will be found in our water supplies at least for a while, remember your local fellow or gal who treats the water may be staying at home for fear of catching the disease or to protect the family from others who don’t have any diapers or food and are now going from house to house on raids, crazy sounding I know. :-
So social disruption will be significant. When workers are faced with the decision of weighing the safety of family members against the worth of their job, you can bet the absentee rate will skyrocket during a pandemic. When the loss of workers begins to affect the delivery of food supplies, power, and water, we are suddenly looking at a different kind of emergency scenario–one reminiscent of the scenes that played out in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck in 2005. When the services we take for granted every day suddenly disappear, people become desparate and things go to hell rather quickly. The break down of social order may be the most frightening prospect that an emerging bird flu pandemic could bring about. The government itself warns about this possibility on its own websites, so do take this possibility seriously.
This is our government web site that warns of social disruption…………..http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/tab3.html”>http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/tab3.html
but the government is stupid and only telling people to put a couple cans of tuna and a box of powdered milk under "the bed", what is under "the bed" some kind of code word for "sleeping public wake up", who puts food "under the bed" ummmm we have pantries now and cabinets, some of us have out-buildings and studios or work-shops, we also have laundry rooms and storage rooms and basements and closets, I Freaking think "under the bed" is some sort of hypnotic code word that was supposed to wake and rise into action folks like me that are smart enough to see some good old fashioned neuro-linguistic programming comming at ya’. http://www.holisticonline.com/hol_neurolinguistic.htm”>http://www.holisticonline.com/hol_neurolinguistic.htm
if you want to know the how and why flu’s emerge from birds every hundred years or so and kill people you can read about that here
http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5096/120105_birdflu_2.pdf”>http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5 … dflu_2.pdfTHIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT STATES HAVE BEEN GIVEN FROM THE GOVERNMENT, this was not for the public to read because The Government thinks the public needs the watered down version that you can find at pandemicflu.gov, notice the difference, they(government) knows that the other official information will be put out onto the web, but I guess they think only a certain few folks will find it and really prepare for what could happen.
Watered down government web-site: http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/tab3.html”>http://www.pandemicflu.gov/plan/tab3.html
Real information from the government: http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5096/120105_birdflu_2.pdf”>http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/img/assets/5 … dflu_2.pdfScientists are watching the virus mutate and are recording it’s every step……….here…………
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07110601/H5N1_Djibouti_Sequence.html”>http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07110 … uence.html
in it you find the scientist saying the virus is "demonstrating significant evolution"Just be prepared that’s all, three months supply of water and food, and stuff………many web-sites out there to help with preps……………………Bird flu will come, will it be as bad as the scientists are saying with billions dead, who knows……………..if it doesn’t happen like that, we will have a lot of extra cans of beans and lots of rice……………………….lots of peanut butter and jam……………………lots of crap but we will find something to do with it.
Go HERE http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_073011212.html”>http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_073011212.html for the tuna and dried milk under the bed video clip from some news, the video is in the upper right, go and laugh and try and think, Why under the bed, Does anyone here at Freakscene ever store food under the bed, well, my nine year old son has stored old apple cores and empty yogurt cups there, Oh, I just got it the government thinks we are all little children, who should "store" food under our beds, heck, I don’t know.
July 13, 2006 at 1:59 pm #119115Bird flu.
I had (probably) the most nasty ass motherf*&?$% case of the flu, this past April. I seriously thought this was my last hour. But I get this sickness every year.
Every year, it comes around, and the people most apt to die from it (or of complications from it) are people who have compromised immune systems, such as the elderly, or people carrying a great big bag of stress (as I was), or younger children–but their immune system may be capable of undertaking and adapting to a lot more stress than some of the older folks.
There are always two waves of flu sickness that pass by here, usually in fall and spring. I do not fear this bird flu thing. I fear more that it is just a full-of-shit pharmaceutical grab bag for cash (as usual).
The Spanish flu, the one that has killed the most people, happened during WWI. My theory is that people died, especially soldiers, because they were not used to coming in contact outside of their own communities–and thus, their bodies (or immune sytems) were less capable of coping with the onslaught of this virus. This has happened throughout (and nearly decimated) many communities (small pox, etc…).
There is also a theory about the fact that tics and fleas may have been carrying this Spanish flu virus and men and women in WWI trenches were more vulnerable.
I believe now, that with the possibility of travelling and coming into more immediate contact with people has built many a population’s immune system, which can be guarded against the aviary flu. And sometimes, I wonder if they put out crap news about it because it is a slow news day…
Anyway, that’s my take on it.
July 13, 2006 at 2:26 pm #119116"fata morgana " wrote:Bird flu.Every year, it comes around, and the people most apt to die from it (or of complications from it) are people who have compromised immune systems, such as the elderly, or people carrying a great big bag of stress (as I was), or younger children–but their immune system may be capable of undertaking and adapting to a lot more stress than some of the older folks.
There are always two waves of flu sickness that pass by here, usually in fall and spring. I do not fear this bird flu thing. I fear more that it is just a full-of-shit pharmaceutical grab bag for cash (as usual).
The Spanish flu, the one that has killed the most people, happened during WWI. My theory is that people died, especially soldiers, because they were not used to coming in contact outside of their own communities–and thus, their bodies (or immune sytems) were less capable of coping with the onslaught of this virus. This has happened throughout (and nearly decimated) many communities (small pox, etc…).
This is a NEW, EMERGING FLU, never seen before on this planet
Fata, major misconception most people have, the flu that comes around each year now is "The Spanish flu", that strain of Influenza A, it does not kill as many people as before because most of us now DO have a degree of immunity to it. The very young, because if again, if their mothers DID NOT breast feed them, may have NO, immunity to the Spanish Flu. Yes, all Mamas immunities are passed through the breast milk, the very old because their immune systems are taxed, will be in danger each year, but most of us can handle the old Spanish flu, yeah, we will get sick as heck but we don’t die. Attention: This is NOT the flu we are talking about……………….
This is a NEW, EMERGING FLU, never seen before on this planet, do ya get it now, there is no vaccination,no immunity by anyone………..thats is why right now overseas they have an 80% death rate, not because they are poor countries, but because there is no MEDICINE to help with this virus, period. I love folks in the video above saying, we just need to make a vaccination, until the virus has finished it’s mutation and begun it’s human to human transfer, we CAN NOT develope a Vaccine, we have wait until we have the virus to have the vaccine, the virus will kill millions and millions before Science can come up with the vaccine, that vaccine will then be the one that we give to thousands of people each year for a "flu shot".
Shoot the pharmaceutical companies wish they had the vaccine but until the virus emerges, or shows us it’s true genetic make-up, there can be NO pharmaceutical grab bag for cash. Although if you go to the recombinomics web site and see that they are Pleading with the WHO to release the other strains codes, this is TODAYS news, http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07120601/H5N1_WHO_Hoarding.html”>http://www.recombinomics.com/News/07120 … rding.html but why does recombinomics want the WHO to release the data?so they can see track which way the evolution is headed so they can be one of the first to help with the vaccine. When it comes to hoarding the evolution of the genectic sequences right now, who has the most information about how this virus is changing over into one capable of transfering between humans,
We read on recombinomics site……………..
None of the sequence data from the Indonesian cluster has been deposited in public databases – access is restricted to a small network of researchers linked to the WHO and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia." excuse me, access is restricted to Who? Oh, I see the American government and their strongly financed organizations, I get it, that makes sense because only the WHO and the CDC are smart enought to know what to do with all of the genectic information.
Read around the recombinomics site-these guy/girls are viral evolution experts……………..check out this bit from a doctor at recombinomics he says:Are people planning? No!
Capable of creating devastation? Yes!
Once again humans demonstrate a profound ability to act stupidly until death is staring them in the face.
Not, I, not I said the bird to the fly………………………………….this will be a little like the movie 28 days later, I’m not kidding, just stay home, ride out the wave, have enough food and water.
July 13, 2006 at 6:32 pm #119117Quote:Yeah, I’m back, weird however my posts were removed twice?
Very Weird……………..not sure what happened, doesn’t look like anyone deleted anything, when we do it automatically goes to our reaped topics…it’s not there. Wonder if the server change disrupted some posts…
July 13, 2006 at 7:16 pm #119118I mean, the Avian Flu was supposed to kill 70% of people on Earth or something last winter. I can’t see it making a comeback.
July 13, 2006 at 9:39 pm #119119"lookitssam " wrote:I mean, the Avian Flu was supposed to kill 70% of people on Earth or something last winter. I can’t see it making a comeback.No, last winter was when we first started hearing about the bird flu mutation, remember farmers were killing flocks of birds in china. At that time/as well as at the present time, the flu can still only go from bird to bird and also it can go from bird to human, but it can’t go from human to human until it changes it’s genetic sequence code………………………the "avian flu" pandemic has not hit yet, but the virus now was last found in Spain, a few weeks ago, again this was a bird to bird transfer only, the virus is mutating on a daily basis…………that info can be found here……………………….http://www.recombinomics.com”>http://www.recombinomics.com, when it finally mutates or evolves (To rapidly evolve, viruses use recombination, which involves swapping of genetic information within specific genes.) Then we will have the pandemic, this happens every hundred years or more, the reason why scientists know this is going to happen fairly soon, is they see this strain has already mutated to the point of killing 80% of the people who happen to catch it, only a few weeks ago in Indonesia, they saw what may be the first human to human spread………..read about that here……….http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/04/MNGBSJ85I11.DTL”>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … J85I11.DTL
So you see LOOKITSAM, this virus has not yet come, so it can’t make a comeback, You will know when the virus is here, we will have people dying daily by the thousands, you won’t miss it, at the rate the virus is mutating, I would expect this to happen this winter or the next.
I’m just so surprised that most people don’t understand what is about to happen.
On a lighter note, my husband traded something for a generator last week, he brought it home and said "hey, Stefka, look what I got, a generator"
"Just in case a world wide pandemic causes us to loose power, you will still be able to get up to date J mascis information from freakscene." (he said while rolling his eyes)
Now that is true love.
July 13, 2006 at 9:59 pm #119120Anna, you said you don’t smoke weed?
You are paranoid girl!
July 13, 2006 at 10:01 pm #119121"Another Girl Another Planet " wrote:Quote:Yeah, I’m back, weird however my posts were removed twice?
Very Weird……………..not sure what happened, doesn’t look like anyone deleted anything, when we do it automatically goes to our reaped topics…it’s not there. Wonder if the server change disrupted some posts…

Yes, who knows, it was strange, it gave me the chills because I though the Mods had thrown it out.
boy, what a mass of cyber flies must be flying around that reaped topic pile, I remember the great one that included Murphs cell phone number,
, I actually would love to see the granny bot cherry bling-blang, thing again, I thought it was great but crazy, the next day it was gone.July 13, 2006 at 10:09 pm #119122"my name is lisa " wrote:Anna, you said you don’t smoke weed?
You are paranoid girl! 
Really, I am the most unparanoid person, so relaxed about the world, I have insider information about police emergency preparation plans which have started to go into place, and my husbands older brother is a poulty virus expert and runs a training lab through the University of Georgia here near Athens. There are grown men with the title Dr. in front of their names who are scared crapless.
ps. paranoia is the reason I don’t smoke, my brain would go into a sort of psychic hyper-drive, and it is there already naturally, so I can’t smoke.

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