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Insurance Premiums

Forums › Forums › General Discussions › Open Topic › Insurance Premiums

  • This topic has 7 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 16 years, 4 months ago by Annastefka.
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  • November 30, 2008 at 9:39 pm #50848
    K7 Rides Again
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      It has been well documented that tobacco users increase the financial strain on the healthcare system due to known complications that can be directly tied to their tobacco usage. So what I want to know is…

      Should smokers be required to pay higher insurance premiums because their use of tobacco products contributes to higher healthcare costs?

      December 1, 2008 at 12:02 am #133587
      tonas
      Moderator

        I fully believe they should pay higher premiums. If you know you are participating in risky behavior that may result in future health problems, then you should pay extra for that decision.

        The question seems simple really. :?

        February 2, 2009 at 12:54 pm #133588
        rambleon
        Participant

          I’m not so convinced …

          It’s a slippery slope from targetting smokers as you have suggested …

          … to people who drink alcohol

          …. to people who eat too many chips

          ….. to people who don’t exercise for 1/2 an hour 5 x weekly

          …… to people who don’t eat 5 portions of fruit and veg daily etc …

          Where would it end? :)

          What about people who are more likely genetically to get certain diseases / conditions like breast cancer, high blood pressure etc. … Would the insurance companies target them as well?

          I bet they would if they could … :|

          February 9, 2009 at 7:25 am #133589
          maxini
          Participant

            I’m against it, for the reasons highlighted by rambleon.

            A better, fairer, less bureaucratic and more humane solution is to simply tax cigarettes higher, and then feed that money into the healthcare system.

            February 9, 2009 at 11:59 am #133590
            K7 Rides Again
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              Question of curiousity…

              What’s the difference whether I tax smokers through higher premiums on cigs or higher premiums on insurance?

              So then, would you agree (maxinin and rambleon) that we should all pay the same, equal premiums?

              February 19, 2009 at 8:18 am #133591
              maxini
              Participant

                Well I’m in favour of a publicly funded health care that is basically equal for everyone and of such high quality that having a private insurance on the side should not really be needed (but if people who are well off still want to get a private insurance to get some better comfort in the event of falling ill – so be it).

                Anyway, if you do have a premium system and make a smoker pay a higher premium, how much higher should it be? Obviously the bigger the smoker you are, the higher the risk of running into smoke related health problems. So should the premium be increasingly higher the more you smoke? 10% higher if you smoke 10 cigs a day, 30% if you smoke 20 etc? How is this going to be checked / controlled? Or will the insurance company take my word for it when I say I only smoke 5 a day? (I actually don’t smoke at all, for the record). Isn’t it just much more straightforward to let smokers pay per cig already when buying them?

                February 28, 2009 at 5:40 pm #133592
                Robert
                Participant

                  Also, if you look back in time you can’t help but notice that all the hip young kids who’s at right where it’s at
                  are smoking. And who are we to penalize people for being hip and young ? That’s just not right. Rock on Twiggy !

                  You can’t argue with history.

                  August 10, 2009 at 7:46 am #133593
                  Annastefka
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                    "rasemariya" wrote:
                    So, why do people use insurance agents? Is there a reason why it’s better to use an agent?

                    Well, as you know..they advertise that it is easy to get insurance now by clicking a button or making the call yourself….this is usually okay for basic coverage (the one that is required by law) if you are driving a car that you do not own out right (you are still making payments on) your coverage will need to be a little different to satisfy your contract with the lien holder. You can still have do-it-yourself insurance without an agent but what the agent is good for (and having a good relationship with one is good for) is if you need multiple things insured (cars, house, life, business) then they can handle all of this for you….when you need to use your insurance….trust me, it’s almost never a good time….it’s wonderful to be able to make one phone call and tell the agent…this happened…and let them handle all the details. Our agent works with multiple companies to find the cheapest coverage….also, smoking was mentioned earlier….it was great to have such a relationship with a agent, who knows us by name…and when we were looking for life insurance, my husband felt comfortable enough to go in and say "Hey Larry "I smoke weed" and the wife wants life insurance, how do we do that.
                    Perhaps you can save a little money by not having an agent but the headache of trying to dig through paper work in the event you need your insurance, trying to remember what type of coverage you have, who covered you etc….. You can also change your oil for real cheap all by yourself……without using anyone else but somethings are worth paying for….

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