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"Tom " wrote:I just dont get these posts. It’s like going to watch a football game, the complaining afterwards that they didn’t throw the ball to your favorite receiver much.
I could see someone being a little upset if they went to a Dinosaur Jr show, and the band did Madonna covers all night or something, but to complain they didnt play the songs you wanted….. I just dont get it.
dude, have you seen that ‘open letter to j’ post? tis about the marketing as hmmmmmmmm says, not about the songs. if this guy knew his 10 fav tunes weren’t going to be played he would have stayed home with his missus and not whinged. the guy’s got kids and is not going to waste his time pre concert checking setlists in this forum. why wasn’t he told about the 3 album only concert when he bought his ticket? sounds like the usa promotion is similar to the aussie tour. research required by ticket buyers. i hate research. fuck that. at our gig half crowd didn’t have a fuckin clue like me. i still jumped around but the dull atmos ruined it for the rest of us.
i don’t know about your sports. but just say you went to a chicago bulls game in their prime and they didn’t play d rod, jordan and luc longey for entire game. shit; i’d complain for sure. except about longley!! sports you expect disappointment at times. not concerts. except if metallica played only their early stuff. yeah.
"tobyt " wrote:"Tom " wrote:I just dont get these posts. It’s like going to watch a football game, the complaining afterwards that they didn’t throw the ball to your favorite receiver much.I could see someone being a little upset if they went to a Dinosaur Jr show, and the band did Madonna covers all night or something, but to complain they didnt play the songs you wanted….. I just dont get it.
dude, have you seen that ‘open letter to j’ post? tis about the marketing as hmmmmmmmm says, not about the songs. if this guy knew his 10 fav tunes weren’t going to be played he would have stayed home with his missus and not whinged. the guy’s got kids and is not going to waste his time pre concert checking setlists in this forum. why wasn’t he told about the 3 album only concert when he bought his ticket? sounds like the usa promotion is similar to the aussie tour. research required by ticket buyers. i hate research. fuck that. at our gig half crowd didn’t have a fuckin clue like me. i still jumped around but the dull atmos ruined it for the rest of us.
i don’t know about your sports. but just say you went to a chicago bulls game in their prime and they didn’t play d rod, jordan and luc longey for entire game. shit; i’d complain for sure. except about longley!! sports you expect disappointment at times. not concerts. except if metallica played only their early stuff. yeah.
But still….this tour is promoted as the reunion of J, Lou, & Murph. If you know anything at all about the band (which is a different proposition from obsessively checking this message board day-in and day-out), you’d know that J, Lou, & Murph recorded *three albums* together (which have recently been reissued), after which Dinosaur became a different band. Why would the J, Lou, & Murph reunion be celebrated as such if they were just going to play all the stuff that post-J, Lou, & Murph Dinosaur, along with J & the Fog, played/play? This doesn’t require superhuman acts of intuition to figure out.
I think this ultimately shows how the unadventurous, consumerist ethos has affected concert going, and music listening in general. Loads of people don’t even make their way through full albums anymore, they just pick and choose songs to download (for free) like they pick and choose their favorite breakfast cereals at the supermarket. Imagine these folks trying to be Husker Du fans back in the day, when the band would tour a new album by playing mostly songs that hadn’t even yet been recorded. I love those kinds of suprises. People need to fucking loosen up and just go with the moment, you know? Otherwise, stay home and listen to your hand-picked tunes.
I wish these "so called" fans would get a clue. Sure I like alot of the stuff without Lou, and Murph. But to see the band in all its original glory is fucking awesome. YLAOM and Bug are classic albums, maybe you "so called" fans should invest in some reissues.
Go whine somewhere else, we don’t want to hear it.
I can actually see both sides to this. On one hand you got a guy who picked up the last 3 or so DJ records, loved them, probably figured the rest sounded that way too, saw them live 3x before, and he was satisfied. He is a fan of the band, not perhaps an uber fan, like some of you here. He was hoping to hear the newer material, by Dinosaur Jr, not the older material by Dinosaur Jr. Since they don’t tour as much anymore, anything touting a "reunion" can be misleading. Should he have checked it out? Yes, he should have, but I think he was operating under the assumption of the 3 previous shows he had seen. Does everyone know the story of Dinosaur Jr? No, we don’t. They are simply not as popular, as lets say, Van Halen. Now, if Van Halen had a "reunion" tour, what would that mean? Roth? Hagar? Cherone? If you thought Hagar, got stoked, didn’t know about Roth (how you could not know about Roth would be baffling), bought a ticket, and they played nothing but Roth Van Halen, then you’d be pissed. Problem with DJ "reunion" tour is they weren’t a real well known band (we’re talking global here). Not everyone knows their story. They didn’t sell millions and millions of records.
There lies the rub. Not everyone leaves and breathes Dinosaur Jr, so not everyone knows the whole story.
I think Bob Mould got it right when Husker Du broke up. We all know what a Husker Du "reunion" would mean, right? (and that ain’t happening anytime soon…). What if Bob had kept the name and kept going, released 3 or 4 records, then stopped playing and went solo. Then he announced a Husker Du "reunion". What would that mean? To the hard core fans, we’d know. But to all those who bought Husker Du after Grant Hart left (in theory), they’d be confused.
I see both sides. I challenge you guys to be a little more accepting of folks. It’s just music…
See you in Nashville, I am busy brushing up on the first 3 albums
Should be awesome!We don’t have a problem being accepting. I accept that it sucks he didn’t get to hear newer stuff. I would love to hear Get Me or What Else is New but I didn’t expect it, so the wagon was a great suprise. If he wanted to hear the later stuff he should have gone to see more of late era dino or the fog.
ycartrob- good analysis. maybe I was a little hard on the not so uber fan. It just seems this is becoming a common complaint. I just don’t get it. But thats probably because I’ve been an uber fan for over a decade now.
On another note seeing Husker Du reunite would be the coolest (besides seeing Dino reunite of course)!
So I guess Sorry you were bumbed dude, pick up the resissues I promise you’ll find amazing music there too.
All I can say is WOW. How can you not know Dino’s earlier work?????? You call yerself a fan, which i don’t question cuz some of their later work was great, and no offense, but you dont know shit about the band. Their ealrier material i.e. You’re Living All Over Me, Bug, were their best work. You are like the guy who knows a few songs off of the later Black Sabbath albums with Ronny James Dio but you have no clue about the original masterpeice releases witt Ozzy. Sorry to fly off the handle on you like that, but it really irks me to hear about the casual fans who get pissed off when the bands they see (which they know so little about0 don’t play their "hits" or the stuff that is the most radio-friendly. The thing is, Dinosaur Jr were a phenominal band that helped push what could be considered rock and roll. They tinkered a lot with effects pedal, dissonance and noise and exteme volume. They weren’t some chauvenistic cock rockers who play the same stadium rock riffs stolen from Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple. They were artists.
I hope this has lead you to pursue some of Dinoasur’s earlier works. It is much better than their later stuff.
Buyer beware for sure. That’s why my post is here. In case someone like me stumbles across this post before buying a ticket, they’ll know what to expect.
I liked the show more or less. But it was frustrating to know that they could have spent 10 minutes trotting out a few of the old "hits" then EVERYONE in the crowd could have gone home happy, not just uberfan.
I don’t know the history of Dinosaur Jr. and probably never will. Perhaps someday I’ll dig into the first 3 albums, I probably would like them. I just can’t seem to get System of A Down out of my CD player right now though. What’s up with that? They rock! I didn’t think I could find a new favorite band at my age, but hey, it beats the crap out of The Wiggles!
Anyhoot, reading these posts has been fun. Thanks.
i guess you got on the bus late, sorry, but the first three albums are going to go down as absolute classics,,,,you can not be insulted by this you must celebrate the opportunity to be blessed seeing this….done
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"djraustin " wrote:So if you’re contemplating going to see Dinosaur Jr. when they come to your town, set your expectation that if you want to hear "Feel the pain" "Start Choppin’" or "Out There" I guess they forgot how to play them or they forgot that these songs are why a large part of their audience is coming to this tour.lol. This would be acceptable if he didn’t spend the other half of the post explaining how long he’s listened to Dino. I think it’s sad that people think they are buying tickets to hear a jukebox. Bands are real people who play whatever music they feel like playing on any given night. Sure, we buy tickets hoping to hear certain songs, but if that doesn’t happen you can’t fault the band. They can’t play every song that everyone in the audience wants. Furthermore, I think the number of people turning out to hear the old stuff probably far outweighs the number of people wanting to hear Feel the Pain.
Anyway, it isn’t his fault he was disappointed. There are lots of bands that show up and run through the same setlist of hits every night. I saw Korn a few years ago and felt that I was getting the same generic performance they were giving everyone else (they even had synchronized videos playing behind them). I wasn’t thrilled with it, but lots of people thought it was the greatest show they’d ever seen. To eac h his own.
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