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"Coma Girl" wrote:Turbonegro – Don’t Say Motherfucker, Motherfucker
The censorship has gone way too far in the US. There’s no way an institution/beureau(sp?) would get away with that in norway.Rambleon-I was`nt trying to rile you,sorry if it came out like that.
Censoring videos on Muchmusic is odd like CG said since shows like The Sopranos and Osbournes are`nt censored
I remember when I used to listen to the local college station the dj had to warn the listeners that the next song has profanity,at least that`s better than a beep or silence.no, that’s ok … you had a good point …
are the sopranos +/or the obsournes aired on normal tv or hbo/cable/other fancy non-basic tv channels ?? if so, maybe that’s why they "get away with it" …
They’re on both, national tv during primetime & some speciality pay channels. Not sure if MTV Canada censors the Osbournes, our national/normal tv lets those shows go thru without censoring a thing, during primetime
MTV has been censoring videos for a looooooong time now, and not just naughty words, but anything that might lead to a lawsuit, and anything even remotely gang related (slang, etc.)
I kid you not, they even censored the word "cold", as in "the bodies turn *BEEP*"… and that was around ten years ago.
That is such a shame. Or rather, it’s a shame that it’s come to this. But to some extent I understand MTV, because from where I’m sitting it looks like you can sue anybody for about anything in the US, and I would sure as hell like to protect myself from people who are suing left and right.
wow, I can’t believe this has generated so much conversation…
What Mattman is saying is true, and it is the real issue at hand here. People left and right are saying it’s because Bush and CC are in bed together, but it goes far beyind that. People from all ends of the political spectrum are up in arms about protecting the public from indecency. It’s out of control.
People are also saying that it’s just an oppurtunity to draw attention away from the real issues. THIS is a real issue in my book. People with power are deciding what you can and cannot say…a freedom granted to us by our constitution. A concept so pure and simple, that billions of people have died for it since the beginning at time. The real problem is, that once you deem one thing offensive and decide it should be illegal and punishable, you’re opening the door for the outlawing of all speech in all forms. If you don’t like it you don’t have to listen to it. No one has the right though, to suppress your freedom of speech.
There’s is a political debate I could get into here about prominent people who are involved of the world of politics, but I could type for days about it…
Don’t even get me started on the SUE HAPPY state America is in…it’s disgusting…
This is why Kurticus strongly believes in his right to bear arms…the day someone says I can’t say what I want to say, I’ll battle them to the end. Let them take my gun (and my freedom of speech) from my cold dead hands (and lifeless mouth)
George Carlins spin on this…
George Carlin Responds to Indecency Uproar
Fri Mar 12, 9:10 PM ETBy ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer
LOS ANGELES – George Carlin (news) famously dissected "The Seven Words You Can’t Say on Television" as a way to explore what everyone was so uptight about.
Thirty-two years later the same debate is still raging, now fueled by Janet Jackson (news)’s Super Bowl flash, the suspension of Howard Stern’s raunchy radio show from six stations and new House legislation that would raise a performer’s indecency fine from $11,000 to $500,000.
So what does the 66-year-old Carlin think of the current handwringing over what is indecent, profane, obscene, immoral, lewd or insulting?
"More of the same, more of the same. What are we, surprised?" Carlin told The Associated Press on Friday
He blamed it on religious moralism, media commercialism and election-year politics.
"The whole problem with this idea of obscenity and indecency, and all of these things — bad language and whatever — it’s all caused by one basic thing, and that is: religious superstition. … There’s an idea that the human body is somehow evil and bad and there are parts of it that are especially evil and bad, and we should be ashamed. Fear, guilt and shame are built into the attitude toward sex and the body. … It’s reflected in these prohibitions and these taboos that we have."
Mix that with TV or radio, and you’ve got a problem, he said.
"What I always remind people is, radio and television and — as it happens — newspapers and magazines too, are advertising media. … When you have commercialism involved you have the kind of fear that advertisers are very afraid of offending some potential customer. They don’t want to lose a sale. So they have this need to inspect and clean up and watch the content in order not to hurt their own sales. It’s based on success at the cash register.
"And yet, they’re very inconsistent_ on that Super Bowl broadcast of Janet Jackson’s there was also a commercial about a 4-hour erection. A lot of people were saying about Janet Jackson, ‘How do I explain to my kids? We’re a little family, we watched it together …’ And, well, what did you say about the other thing? These are convenient targets."
He also thinks President Bush (news – web sites) is trying to placate right-wing voters.
The U.S. Air Force veteran compared the recent tension with memories of his military experience.
"These bursts of interest and decency are just like when you’re in the Air Force, Army and Marines, whatever — the discipline in your unit may get a little lax, people live with it, it’s fine for months at a time then some colonel notices it and suddenly they crack down … enforcing all the minor rules and regulations. Then what happens after these bursts of bothering people, that wears off and we get back to normal, relaxed discipline, but things still get done.
"Society can be counted on to let this fade."
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