idiot america revisited

[K7 Rides Again]

I read an article several years ago titled Idiot America. It was written in response to the creationism museum being built in a little town of my neighbors to the south.

http://www.aboyandhiscomputer.com/Greet … erica.html

You don’t have to read the article, but it’s basically a big slam against the religious movement taking hold here in the states. Since reading this article, I’ve noticed lots of other things along the way that make me stop and ponder.

Random thought:
The creationism museum is open seven days a week. I can’t put my finger on it, but there seems to be something sacrilegious about having to work on Sunday. I mean, even God took a day off, right? Maybe the almighty dollar is the great driving force behind creationism rather then an ideological enlightenment.

The diversity that exists in the world is so complex that it could not possibly have occurred randomly. Therefore, some super intelligent being must have intervened to create the diversity around us. This sounds a bit contradictory (well more like absolutely ludicrous) to me.

Here’s a piece of evolution we can all relate to. Samuel Adam’s brewery here in the states recently released a new beer with an alcohol content pushing 20%. In the world of beer making, this is unheard of. Why? Because as beer yeast creates alcohol, it eventually dies as the levels in the brew reaches 8-10%. This level of alcohol is toxic to the yeast. For hundreds of years, this has been the highest beer could reach.

At some point in time, the makers at Samuel Adam’s had a batch of beer that reached the 10% mark and some yeast was still alive. After many years of brewing, the yeast became stronger and more resistant to higher alcohol levels. The brewers collected this yeast and bred it. They then used it to make another batch of beer and the alcohol content reached 11%. In this batch of brew, some yeast was still alive suggesting it could survive in higher levels of alcohol. So what did the brewers do? They collected the yeast and bred it. They repeated this cycle until they had created a yeast that could tolerate 20% alcohol. If that is not evolution in action, I don’t what the hell is.

Another thought:
If the earth is only four to five thousand years old, how come there aren’t any mentions of dinosaurs in the bible? Surely an animal measuring over 80 feet long and weighing 35 tons such as a brontosaurus should have been noted somewhere. A whale swallowed Jonah, think how many early Christians must have been squashed by one of these behemoths meandering about. Wouldn’t a plague of pterodactyls and tyrannosaurus rexes be so much scarier then locust?

One more:
I recently read an article in the local paper concerning the explosion of anti-religious works in bookstores. The columnists was interviewing a minister who stated (I’m paraphrasing here as I don’t remember the exact words) “it’s like all these writers suddenly got together to execute a well coordinated counterattack on organized religion.â€

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I heard there was an album several years ago entitled American Idiot and I thought it was a cooler name than Courtny Love’s American Sweetheart.

As far as I know, religions mind their own business in this country, and even stay away from getting politically involved in those non issues such as abortion. I was paranoid once, thinking our church has a video of me saying…..

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Random thought:
The creationism museum is open seven days a week. I can’t put my finger on it, but there seems to be something sacrilegious about having to work on Sunday. I mean, even God took a day off, right? Maybe the almighty dollar is the great driving force behind creationism rather then an ideological enlightenment.

The bible is so long and big, it has leeway to evolve over time I think. If the museum wants to be open on Sunday, it’s perfectly fine because it’s just another proving note that all the rules in the bible can be bent, as demonstrated by our court systems. The dollar is here for no other reason than to give us something to strive for.

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The diversity that exists in the world is so complex that it could not possibly have occurred randomly. Therefore, some super intelligent being must have intervened to create the diversity around us. This sounds a bit contradictory (well more like absolutely ludicrous) to me

I know it man. It’s just one Immigration and Naturalization Services conspiracy to fill the world with finer women and more motivated workers. Seriously, I think the secret is concealed in DNA and each individual can be modified by just one drop of substance. Why not create diversities so it can be studied and passed along to lesser cultures.

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Here’s a piece of evolution we can all relate to. Samuel Adam’s brewery here in the states recently released a new beer with an alcohol content pushing 20%. In the world of beer making, this is unheard of. Why? Because as beer yeast creates alcohol, it eventually dies as the levels in the brew reaches 8-10%. This level of alcohol is toxic to the yeast. For hundreds of years, this has been the highest beer could reach. At some point in time, the makers at Samuel Adam’s had a batch of beer that reached the 10% mark and some yeast was still alive. After many years of brewing, the yeast became stronger and more resistant to higher alcohol levels. The brewers collected this yeast and bred it. They then used it to make another batch of beer and the alcohol content reached 11%. In this batch of brew, some yeast was still alive suggesting it could survive in higher levels of alcohol. So what did the brewers do? They collected the yeast and bred it. They repeated this cycle until they had created a yeast that could tolerate 20% alcohol. If that is not evolution in action, I don’t what the hell is.

So the Yeast over time built up a tolerance to the achohol? That sounds like alot of work to cycle it, but as weak as beer is people definitely deserve it. I bet it still taste nasty. I used to hate beer, but I had a fine Budwieser Select last week. I made it empty quick, maybe 5 minutes. Felt nothing.

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Another thought:
If the earth is only four to five thousand years old, how come there aren’t any mentions of dinosaurs in the bible? Surely an animal measuring over 80 feet long and weighing 35 tons such as a brontosaurus should have been noted somewhere. A whale swallowed Jonah, think how many early Christians must have been squashed by one of these behemoths meandering about. Wouldn’t a plague of pterodactyls and tyrannosaurus rexes be so much scarier then locust?

I don’t know for sure. Dinosaurs could be a well covered up myth just as the stars are. Personally, I like to think they ARE stars in the sky, not satellites and alien space bases, but hold true to the fact that the star three inches from the moon is actually a satellite launched by Bill Gates. Is it there to catch photoshop terrorrist creating ill fated revolutions under strict orders from the cheerleading squad. If the bible folks knew dinosaurs, they would have mentioned it. They probably would have traded Jesus for them in the grand ball game of "that thing could eat me".

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One more:
I recently read an article in the local paper concerning the explosion of anti-religious works in bookstores. The columnists was interviewing a minister who stated (I’m paraphrasing here as I don’t remember the exact words) “it’s like all these writers suddenly got together to execute a well coordinated counterattack on organized religion.â€

[maxini]

In my humblie opinion (being a trained scientist myself), a true scientist like Stephen Hawking deserves tons of more respect and credibility than any fucking catholic hypocrite pope:

In his essay, Dawkins paraphrased the Pope’s statement: “In plain language, there came a moment in the evolution of hominids when God intervened and injected a human soul into a previously animal lineage.â€

[tonas]

Great post Maxini.

"The return of Kurticus " wrote:

Another thought:
If the earth is only four to five thousand years old, how come there aren’t any mentions of dinosaurs in the bible? Surely an animal measuring over 80 feet long and weighing 35 tons such as a brontosaurus should have been noted somewhere. A whale swallowed Jonah, think how many early Christians must have been squashed by one of these behemoths meandering about. Wouldn’t a plague of pterodactyls and tyrannosaurus rexes be so much scarier then locust?

I watch a lot of those pseudo scince shows on TV. I’d like to think that there is a shred of truth in those shows as well. Which leads into what I think is a common misconception, that dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time. Though its fun to think about, I don’t think it happened that way. Dinosaurs were long gone by the time humans inhabited the Earth. Which also means there is more to the story than the Earth was created in 7 days yada yada yada. We are obviously missing something, and I’mnot sure we’ll ever know the answers to these questions. Though it does make for good conversation.

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Maxini. The way it read, it almost seemed that the Pope could have changed Catholicism’s view of evolution and universe in one, uninhibited speech. People might not have caught on though, because real catholics might never latch onto this idea and support it in the catholic community. People have used god to explain what science doesn’t allow, and it’s an old system as science progresses us more in an intelligently planned way. Maybe even someday, scientist will be able to create what they have already in another universe. Then can they call themselves the most advanced beings that have ever been on earth? Well, they are, unless the past was buried under tons and tons of earth matter. Maybe there should be a dig to China.

Tonas, I don’t think dinosaurs and humans lived together either. Dam, I have a GED, but I suspect even now if they wanted to they could clone a dinosaur. It would most likely be a monster since they would have to add to the tiny amount of a Dinosaur’s DNA they know. Do they know anything about Dinosaur’s DNA? Have I been brainwashed by Jurassic Park? I think humans have been being cloned ever since mid century, and these duplicates are most likely termed the alien reveal. Can they clone humans by taking a sample of DNA at birth? If they can clone human beings I wouldn’t necessarily take that as proof that collectively, they are god, but that the earth may have been created by humankind. It must have been a really big workshop.

just my two cents

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