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thought I should add my two cents about Japanese guitars. I have not done much comparative work between us and jap models, but anyway.
My fender jaguar was imported from japan and when I got it it had poor setup. the string slipped as crazy. and it was not intonated very well. If that is common, stay away. As for Tokay.. I have a tokay strat from the eighties with red colour, red neck and matching headstock. I have heard positive stuff about Tokay, so maybe I should take it to a guitar luthier and get it fixed. It has rosewood fingerboard, or at least it looks like that. But one can never know, the stereotype about japan using cheap and poor wood could be true.
"simmons " wrote:thought I should add my two cents about Japanese guitars. I have not done much comparative work between us and jap models, but anyway.
My fender jaguar was imported from japan and when I got it it had poor setup. the string slipped as crazy. and it was not intonated very well. If that is common, stay away. As for Tokay.. I have a tokay strat from the eighties with red colour, red neck and matching headstock. I have heard positive stuff about Tokay, so maybe I should take it to a guitar luthier and get it fixed. It has rosewood fingerboard, or at least it looks like that. But one can never know, the stereotype about japan using cheap and poor wood could be true.nah he just needs to get a mustang bridge for it and get it set up a little the orginal bridges on jazz and jags sucks!
oh sounds like a good score yah even stevie ray vaughn used tokai
"alicemudgarden jr " wrote:That is not his sig guitar, that looks lake placid bluelook at the head stock closely its colored
and its a lighter color then his 59 im pretty sure thats itthe guitar is here: http://www.freakscene.net/forums/discussion/7838 so you’re wrong Eyesadrift.
"simmons " wrote:the guitar is here: http://www.freakscene.net/forums/discussion/7838 so you’re wrong Eyesadrift.Thanks for that pic, I was looking for it but forgot where it was. Maybe your eyes are adrift eyesadrift?
"simmons " wrote:the guitar is here: http://www.freakscene.net/forums/discussion/7838 so you’re wrong Eyesadrift.wow thanks for the pic man that thing is beautiful i hope fender brings them out soon hmm i still think that is the guitar thou just the lighting sucks thou
"eyesadrift " wrote:"alicemudgarden jr " wrote:That is not his sig guitar, that looks lake placid bluelook at the head stock closely its colored
and its a lighter color then his 59 im pretty sure thats ittheres a pic of the lake placid blue guitar & a lot of his other guitars in the article Digging Up Bones/freesofree.net, from 1997.
"alicemudgarden jr " wrote:"simmons " wrote:the guitar is here: http://www.freakscene.net/forums/discussion/7838 so you’re wrong Eyesadrift.Thanks for that pic, I was looking for it but forgot where it was. Maybe your eyes are adrift eyesadrift?
😛 mybe is another model i dunno to me the head stock looks colored it has the gold pickguard and its not a blackish blue sparkle looking jazz like js 59
it does look a blue sparkle but i think thats the lighting
but im just trying to help out
i love how bad my karma is oh well"simmons " wrote:the guitar is here: http://www.freakscene.net/forums/discussion/7838Man that guitar is sick! I would love to have one of those.
yeah,
yeah……..no…..thats Lake Placid Blue, sorry man.The last U.S. guitars I played were a few Strats, and Les Pauls…and an SG. I didn’t like any of them, they felt like they were about to fall apart. I agree with you, it is all about how the guitar feels to the player. Everyone is different, and this is what I have found. I like "cheaper" guitars I guess. I also agree with you about older guitar being better. Even after Fender sold to CBS, they were good…..I don’t care what guitar snobs say, my Mustang is art. It plays beautifully, sounds great, looks great…..and its a US. It’s also something to say that Mustangs were made with Poplar…..far less appealing than even Alder or Basswood. US used this crap for mustangs and probably Duo-sonics, Broncos, and Musicmasters too. I think as far as a country using lesser hardware is kinda some crap……Gotoh M3 tuners are Gotoh M3 tuners you know? I like the pickups that came on my V just fine, but I thought I would add a coil tap to it so I put in a JB in the bridge. Turns out I don’t like that pickup nearly as much as the stock one. Stock Epiphone sounded better to me than the Duncan. ? Oh well, now my Les Paul (Cortez Les Paul……old……American) which has mods to it now can have an Epi humbucker!
R/J
"Randy Jane " wrote:yeah,
yeah……..no…..thats Lake Placid Blue, sorry man.The last U.S. guitars I played were a few Strats, and Les Pauls…and an SG. I didn’t like any of them, they felt like they were about to fall apart. I agree with you, it is all about how the guitar feels to the player. Everyone is different, and this is what I have found. I like "cheaper" guitars I guess. I also agree with you about older guitar being better. Even after Fender sold to CBS, they were good…..I don’t care what guitar snobs say, my Mustang is art. It plays beautifully, sounds great, looks great…..and its a US. It’s also something to say that Mustangs were made with Poplar…..far less appealing than even Alder or Basswood. US used this crap for mustangs and probably Duo-sonics, Broncos, and Musicmasters too. I think as far as a country using lesser hardware is kinda some crap……Gotoh M3 tuners are Gotoh M3 tuners you know? I like the pickups that came on my V just fine, but I thought I would add a coil tap to it so I put in a JB in the bridge. Turns out I don’t like that pickup nearly as much as the stock one. Stock Epiphone sounded better to me than the Duncan. ? Oh well, now my Les Paul (Cortez Les Paul……old……American) which has mods to it now can have an Epi humbucker!
R/J
yah i just bought a 70s cortez dove copy and i love how it sounds!
dude, ok…..what job do you have? The only time I ever got equipment like you’ve been getting is when I had no bills, a job and I lived with my mom. That’s when I had the most equipment, but now…..Ive had to trade or sell stuff to get things I want. Lately I’ve been getting stuff for my car and am more into that than I am with guitars.
Thats shocking to think that! It’s weird that anything has come between music and myself. Oh well, when I have no money for the stuff and I have to keep my car afloat, and there’s no band really……other things get interesting.
Cortez’s are really kool, do you know anything about them? Most people just think they’re just Gibson copies. Did you know that when they started making them they were made in Kalamazoo MI inside the Gibson factory by the Gibson people? They then stopped making them and and Cortez moved their company to Japan and tried making the same guitars, but Gibson sued them. I have also heard that they dropped the "ez" and became Cort….don’t know the truth behind that one. My Cortez and most likely yours were made in the good old USA in the late 60’s or early 70’s. They are great guitars. Mine is a bolt on, but I crafted a birch heel and made it set neck. I then covered it with fabric (fish design…..no….its kool) on the front, back, and back of neck. I plan on Gotoh tuners, the Epiphone humbucker in the bridge position, something in the neck….not sure what yet. I’m putting a kill switch in it, three pre-amps (one takes out the capacitance added by the cable and brightens things up a bit, one boosts bass and I think the other one is tone or volume…..dont remember).
One volume knob, the jack in the original position and a five way rotory switch (PRS style) for neck, mid, bridge, and I’m adding a thinline under the saddles. The fifth position will be an off setting. Great for recording!
The woods they used were generally mahogany, even the plywood they used was…so it’s a "redeeming" factor for them.R/J
"Randy Jane " wrote:dude, ok…..what job do you have? The only time I ever got equipment like you’ve been getting is when I had no bills, a job and I lived with my mom. That’s when I had the most equipment, but now…..Ive had to trade or sell stuff to get things I want. Lately I’ve been getting stuff for my car and am more into that than I am with guitars.Thats shocking to think that! It’s weird that anything has come between music and myself. Oh well, when I have no money for the stuff and I have to keep my car afloat, and there’s no band really……other things get interesting.
Cortez’s are really kool, do you know anything about them? Most people just think they’re just Gibson copies. Did you know that when they started making them they were made in Kalamazoo MI inside the Gibson factory by the Gibson people? They then stopped making them and and Cortez moved their company to Japan and tried making the same guitars, but Gibson sued them. I have also heard that they dropped the "ez" and became Cort….don’t know the truth behind that one. My Cortez and most likely yours were made in the good old USA in the late 60’s or early 70’s. They are great guitars. Mine is a bolt on, but I crafted a birch heel and made it set neck. I then covered it with fabric (fish design…..no….its kool) on the front, back, and back of neck. I plan on Gotoh tuners, the Epiphone humbucker in the bridge position, something in the neck….not sure what yet. I’m putting a kill switch in it, three pre-amps (one takes out the capacitance added by the cable and brightens things up a bit, one boosts bass and I think the other one is tone or volume…..dont remember).
One volume knob, the jack in the original position and a five way rotory switch (PRS style) for neck, mid, bridge, and I’m adding a thinline under the saddles. The fifth position will be an off setting. Great for recording!
The woods they used were generally mahogany, even the plywood they used was…so it’s a "redeeming" factor for them.R/J
yep thats me man i sleep on the floor pay 350 a month for rent at my moms house i work as a custodain and i just buy guitar stuff like crazy im pretty much done with my collection just a few things here and there sadly my super lead is freaking out on me and i need to get that fixed
ahh thats cool i didnt know about cortez but i heard they were good guitars
yah its got the same open book style headstock of the gibsons
the last thing im gonna buy for a loooonnnnnggg time * im saving up to move
ahh sweet sounds like a fun project
wish i was a bit smarter about that stuff
but im not really much of a modder thou
i love guitars even thou i suck
i guess its better then buying drugs thouits stupid i know
but heres a dumb pic of it if you were curious to what it looks like
[img]http://home.insightbb.com/~blackriderguitars/cortez2.jpg[/img]
the finish looks like my uncles toredo humingbird copy
too bad it wasnt naturalnice!……I’ve always liked that finish better than the natural one they also did…..good job! You should save up a bit and get a Martin if you don’t have one, they are WELL worth the money. I have an ’87 D2832, It’s really cool. It’s essentially a D28 with a thinline pickup under the saddle (which gives it the 32 number).
"Randy Jane " wrote:nice!……I’ve always liked that finish better than the natural one they also did…..good job! You should save up a bit and get a Martin if you don’t have one, they are WELL worth the money. I have an ’87 D2832, It’s really cool. It’s essentially a D28 with a thinline pickup under the saddle (which gives it the 32 number).ahh cool sounds nice ill have to remeber that thanks for the tip
yah id like one but there so pricey!
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