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November 17, 2002 at 5:22 am #45231
I just read the book and feel like shit for doing so.
Its fucken wrong to read his private stuff, dont buy it!
later travNovember 17, 2002 at 7:11 am #73258Dont buy it because its irrelevant
Killing himself was cobains career move. If he was still alive we would have rejected his immature teen lyrics and dull tunes a long time ago
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November 17, 2002 at 9:01 pm #73259I think they face sort of a catch-22 with this. It is too soon to publish them without being exploitative, but if they wait the "proper" amount of time, it truly will be irrelevant. It’s not like Cobain is J. J. Rousseau or somebody.
November 17, 2002 at 9:02 pm #73260Kockney, I’m not exactly a Cobain worshippers, but this probably isn’t the best sight to be talking like that.
<small>[ 11-17-2002, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: Malcom, just Malcom ]</small>
November 17, 2002 at 10:18 pm #73261Kockney was right on. The only reason people don’t think Nirvana was shit was Cobain died before people could turn on him.
November 18, 2002 at 1:26 am #73262While I don’t agree with Kockney about the career move, he has every right to post his opinion on FreakScene. He isn’t attacking anyone, just stating an opinon, definitely cool to post that kinda thing on FreakScene.
What I can’t believe is that I agree with antipop about the diaries <img>
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November 18, 2002 at 1:29 am #73263</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by Valentine Frankenstein:
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What I can’t believe is that I agree with antipop about the diaries <img></strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>Yeah, me too. We’re a Mattman and Rosa away from the board imploding and us all being sucked into the third transdimensional vortex symboliccally starting the beginning of the techno-Armageddon.
"And in the valley of Freakscene Har-mag-ged’don, the compiled armies of the world did meet." – Revelation 16:4 (I think).
January 2, 2006 at 1:55 pm #73264Just got ’em for Xmas, they’re incredible, the closest most of us will ever get inside the real thing.
January 3, 2006 at 2:06 pm #73265I thought about getting it when it came out. Then I realized the only reason it was published was so his deranged junkie widow could continue to suck every penny she possibly could from his fans to support her nasty junkie ass and her 5 grand a day drug habit.
January 3, 2006 at 6:46 pm #73266"my name is lisa " wrote:I thought about getting it when it came out. Then I realized the only reason it was published was so his deranged junkie widow could continue to suck every penny she possibly could from his fans to support her nasty junkie ass and her 5 grand a day drug habit.Sing it, sister!! Courtney will jump on any chance she has to cash in on Kurt’s success, ala Yoko.
And as far as the ethical side of this? Hey blame society, man. Dirty laundry SELLS!! Publishers are going to publish of what public wants for fear that if they don’t, someone else will- there was obvoiusly a demand for it.
And dying is the best move ANY musician can make for their career. It all turns into "what could have been" so, I’ve got to somewhat agree with Kockney’s take on this. Nirvana’s day in the sun was definately up and were even falling out of favor with the critics.
I, for one, flat out reject the theory that Nirvana single handedly brought alt-rock to the forefront. I could bearly watch that Nevemind DVD, all that Butch Vig gushing about how great Kurt was. The guy was pretty talented but, he fell into the classic "sophomore slump" after Nevermind (I don’t count Bleach as a contiguous work) and the result was the subpar In Utero. This happens constantly on the industry: A band spends the bulk of it’s time trying to hit it big with songs they’ve spent years polishing only to get that big deal and stink it up because of lack of creativity or the pressure from the execs to get a new album out on time.
For me, this is how you separate the goods for the greats; The Beatles put out an album EVERY FREAKING YEAR. So did Zepplin, Allman Bros, Pink Floyd, ect. Now, why do you think we no longer hear from "promising" bands after one good song or album? (Ahem, Limp Bizcut ) Either you got it or you don’t…….January 3, 2006 at 7:09 pm #73267That’s true. Some bands back then were so prolific, you don’t see that as much these days.
January 3, 2006 at 8:19 pm #73268You also see a much shorter life span for bands nowadays. And what bugs me more than that IS that inability for most bands to reproduce the quality material that got them the big bucks.
That’s why I get pretty stupid on music history after the late 80’s/ early 90’s, when I was at my most open minded and got my education on the great ones. I was just spoiled on soaking up all the good material from the 60’s and 70’s. I’d just assumed it was common practice to crank out album after album, year after year. Boy, was I wrong. And In Utero was a shining example of this. Nevermind is a fantastic album: top 100 all time maybe. But, to see the look on my face as I listened to In Utero must have been priceless. See, I heard a little bit of Rape Me well before the albums release (which he’d been working on for quite a while, by the way) and assumed the rest of the album would sound similar. Not the case. I found it to be an unpolished, unfocused, loose sounding album that needed another 6 months or so so stay in the oven……January 3, 2006 at 8:24 pm #73269Ugh, just like Weezer.
Bands seem to be taking too many musical risks or not enough. But then again who am I to say.
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