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<BLOCKQUOTE><font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeremiah:
<STRONG>Just got word from J –
Yeah we’re all ok here. I was in NY it was very sad, I’m on 22nd street so far enough away not to be too affected, the smoke was bad my eyes were all swolen and there were people all over the streets a lot with soot all
over them walking away from the scene. Theres no way to comprehend what is going
through there minds. I left that night and came back to Amherst, but I have a hard time dealing with it all. I just hope we don’t nuke anyone.
thanks J</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>WOW! I didn’t know J. was in danger. Sonic Youth, Dino Jr… they’re targeting everything good about the ’80s!
Well if Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson show themselves around here, I’ll drop into my slip and scare’em off. [img]images/smiles/converted/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/converted/cool.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img]
</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by jeremiah:
<strong>I remember this like it was yesterday.</strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>I think most of us do… <img></font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by Mattman:
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I’ll tell you though, I haven’t looked too deeply into this, but Isreal is a concern of mine. They stand to gain considerably from all of this if they play their cards right. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start trying to manipulate things…
</strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>sadly you were right mattman. reading this thread a year later is almost like having a timemachine. and it’s really sad to see all that this attack led to.
the situation in israel and now the insane plans regarding attacks on irak.
suffering feeds suffering feeds suffering feeds…I remember it well too,that week it happened it was so quiet outside,it was like everyone was hiding inside expecting the end of the world to happen.
Yeah those emotions from just a year ago are never really far from the surface! The horror of watching those planes fly into the towers, the field in PA, the Pentagon, the lives lost, changed us all forever <img> The shock, rage & confusion I experienced last year really does continue to this day.
Allison
</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by Malcomtent:
<strong>Am I the only person who gets creeped out reading the beginning of this topic?</strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>nope – it has the same effect on me</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by deepsludge:
<strong>Ya’ll hear bout that baby who was orphaned? The mother and father passed at the WTC. <img> This child, hope she gets the best…</strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>Yes, let’s hope she gets the best, maybe initiatives like this provide some help!I’m surprised at the number of freaksceners who are contributing to this thread. Did any of you know people who were involved? Did you think that the U.S. was immune to attack (i.e. were you surprised)? And did you really need such a graphic & monumental display of death to make you reevaluate your own lives?
I’m really not trying to be crass, or to offend anyone. I’m completely serious, and curious. Because I didn’t know anyone involved. I had no money or property at stake. I didn’t experience any personal revelations, nor did I feel compelled to write poems about freedom. I was not affected by the attacks, with the exception of just becoming more resentful toward our government, and the ignorant flag-wavers who serve only to embarass.
I feel horrible that lives were lost, and that a few zealots have cast all Muslims in a bad light.
But instead of taking 9/11 as a wakeup call that maybe our colonialism/imperialistic attitudes are getting out of hand, we’ve decided ‘gee, maybe I need to spend more time with my family, and get that car I’ve always wanted’.
I guess I just don’t understand the need to celebrate. My heart goes out to the families of the victims on every side. I just think that the whole situation has been mishandled, and has become an insult to the people who did indeed make sacrifices. Wealthy families on Wall Street are receiving millions from both public donations and federal compensation. What about victims of other tragedies? What about providing money or education to young people in the middle east (or other economically underpriveleged areas) so this doesn’t happen again? The media are mouthpieces for the Bush administration. Dissent is being squashed as though we were living in 1940s communist territory; Bill Maher got fired, for god’s sake. Radio stations aren’t being allowed to play certain songs. The whole country is insisting that things will never be the same again, because that’s what all the news programs are telling us, with little exception.
I can’t buy into the American obsession with death and tragedy. I refuse to proclaim that I’m a somehow deeply changed person, thereby letting the Bush administration win its little game of rule-by-fear. And I’m saddened to think that this day will be rehashed on the news every year until we’re all immune to it anyway.
I mean absolutely no offense to the deceased or their families and acquaintances. But on this day I choose to think on the role of the U.S. in the global village, and not about all the things that I’m doing wrong with my life. Because my life is good.
Would enjoy hearing other peoples’ thoughts.
xo
RosaDidn’t know anyone personally, not american and am not celebrating the horror of last year, not buying the whole bush spiel, never did never will, didn’t think the us was immune but was horrified at the size, extent of damage & number lost. Didn’t need anything to make me examine my life and relationships, do that on my own as an adult, part of the whole evolution of myself as a person that I try and maintain. Agree rights are being trampled, never said I was in agreement with any of the extreme measures implemented in both of our countries to deal with the threat of terrorism. Glad Canada is taking a wait and see attitude toward the iraq thing. Aware of the inequities between Oklahoma bombing victims and the 9/11 financial settlements…not a whole lot I can do about that one, not saying I agree with it but Hey! Not pleased with the Red Cross misleading people about where the donations would go, not all that surprised by that though. Don’t get me started on the media coverage <img>
9/11 changed me, not saying I’ve become a better person thru this tragedy. I’ve come to appreciate the selflessness of people in situations like this, the firefighters, emergency medical personnel, police that raced into those buildings to try and help people, the people helping each other…that chokes me up everytime. Some might say thats their job, well it is, definitely takes special people to do that…I admire all of them no matter what their political ideaology is, what football team they like, if they don’t wear black all the time…this tragedy made me appreciate those kind of things. I don’t think thats a bad thing!
Come to think of it, I do need a new car <img>
Allison
<small>[ 09-11-2002, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Valentine Frankenstein ]</small>
Hey Rosa,
Mixed feelings here, a couple of friends of mine worked at the Deutsche Bank, the DB building was standing next to the WTC, they got out alive, one of them got some nasty cuts from some flying glass, from their stories I know they went through hell, and a couple of them lost some good friends, who worked at some law firm in the WTC, so yes, I know people who were directly involved in the disaster….
On the political side of things, president Bush’s war on terrorism has led to a change of regime in Afghanistan, but apart from that things are getting nowhere fast, I think that is the reason why Bush is now settling for a sitting target like Saddam Hussain (who is not too involved in this whole terrorism movement at all….), I think it is a quite sensible thing from most European countries (apart from the UK, where Tony Blair somehow is turning into a Bush-marionet) to back off from this ‘good guy/bad guy’ point of view.
</font><blockquote><font>quote:</font><hr><font>Originally posted by deepsludge:
<strong>DenBuck, did you folks over there have "moments of silence"? Just wandering</strong></font><hr></blockquote><font>Well, this is what I saw on the news tonight (was sitting in a train for most of the day myself):
Our prime-minister held a short speech in Parliament today, expressing his solidarity with the people in the US, and he quoted the dutch poet Lucebert: "alles van waarde is weerloos" : "All things of value are defenceless", and of course, there was a lot of 9/11 on TV tonight, but, no, no real "moments of silence" over here….
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