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Go Mama’s………………..I’ve been praying for years that more and more American woman would say "No Way"
to hacking on their little baby boys penis when he is only several hours old. In our whole gang of friends and family
not one baby boy is circumcised. You can crop dogs ears and tails if you really feel you must but I hate the idea of "cropping" a baby.http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/circumcision.decline.ap/index.html”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/ci … index.html
before one of the pearl street dinosaur shows i saw lou’s mom and hannelore walking down the street. she was the cutest thing ever.
"Annastefka " wrote:Go Mama’s………………..I’ve been praying for years that more and more American woman would say "No Way"
to hacking on their little baby boys penis when he is only several hours old. In our whole gang of friends and family
not one baby boy is circumcised. You can crop dogs ears and tails if you really feel you must but I hate the idea of "cropping" a baby.http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/circumcision.decline.ap/index.html”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/ci … index.html
I understand your point Stefka, but wonder about the social implications of that choice. Imagine years down the road when your boy is in his late teens, and he’s in the throws of passion with a girl. A moment comes when she unzips his pants and pulls out his penis, looks down at it and says "Whats this? A burrito? What do I do with this? Put it in the microwave?"
He’ll be scarred for life. Of course I could be totally wrong on this ………………. :-
Quote:i agree with Tonas.Quote:as do i.Maybe I wasn’t wrong. I’m sure a guy’s perspective on this is going to be way different than a womans.
great article discussing the evolution of mascis and the DJ revival: all about DJ then and now, listener response then and who we are now–
http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article.aspx?id=1572″>http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Art … px?id=1572
Crawdaddy! – Feature Story – Dinosaur Jr: We’re Living All Over Again
"Annastefka " wrote:Go Mama’s………………..I’ve been praying for years that more and more American woman would say "No Way"
to hacking on their little baby boys penis when he is only several hours old. In our whole gang of friends and family
not one baby boy is circumcised. You can crop dogs ears and tails if you really feel you must but I hate the idea of "cropping" a baby.http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/circumcision.decline.ap/index.html”>http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/18/ci … index.html
ummm, i have a friend who’s 27 and he just got circumcised, at the age of 27 mind you, because he’s been so traumatized by being uncircumsized his whole life. the DRs tried to dissuade him, but to no avail. he thought his sexuality was really stunted by his freakish hang-up. sure we’re all "freaks" but sometimes that can be painful…literally. maybe think twice about not clipping. for health reasons too.
"sappy cancer " wrote:great article discussing the evolution of mascis and the DJ revival: all about DJ then and now, listener response then and who we are now–…
Thanks for that article, sappy. A good read!
"tonas " wrote:I understand your point Stefka, but wonder about the social implications of that choice. Imagine years down the road when your boy is in his late teens, and he’s in the throws of passion with a girl. A moment comes when she unzips his pants and pulls out his penis, looks down at it and says "Whats this? A burrito? What do I do with this? Put it in the microwave?"He’ll be scarred for life. Of course I could be totally wrong on this ………………. :-
I’m Scottish, and here in the UK circumcision is definately not the social norm. The prevelance is around 15% of males, but the incidence is less than 3%. This 3% primarily relates to practicing muslims and therapeutic circumcison (for infection etc). I work within the National Health Service, and there has been a great deal of ethical debate as to whether circumcision should be available on the NHS, and whether it is ethically sound to subject newborns, and young children, to invasive surgery, which is superfluous and carries the associated risks of any operation.
I have been asked to refer young children on for circumcision, and on each occassion the request was from a muslim family seeking tahara , or purification. Whilst the practice is still lawful in the UK, I take a conscientious objection to non-therapeutic circumcision, and as such, do not refer children for this procedure.
Ultimately, my view is that non-therapeutic circumcision amounts to needless battery, and whilst certain cultures may have religous, or psycho-social requests, these demands do not outweigh the fundamental human rights of the young, non-consenting, child."sappy cancer " wrote:great article discussing the evolution of mascis and the DJ revival: all about DJ then and now, listener response then and who we are now–http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Article.aspx?id=1572″>http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/Art … px?id=1572
Crawdaddy! – Feature Story – Dinosaur Jr: We’re Living All Over Again
Enjoyed that!
Reads like a sentimental memory of my own…!
HC, in re:
"non-therapeutic circumcision amounts to needless battery"
I’ve not read the latest research, but I have heard that there is evidence that circumcision can be justified medically, for example it may reduce the chances of contracting HIV. I know this is nowhere near settled, but it seems to make thie issue one where it’s difficult to say definitively what’s the right or wrong thing to do.
And this seems to always be the way it is for parents. I hate to tell other parents what to do, even though I’ve got a lot of experience at it and work hard at it myself. Usually, it seems better to tell them what you know, and let them decide for themselves.
"Hairy Cornflake " wrote:I’m Scottish, and here in the UK circumcision is definately not the social norm. The prevelance is around 15% of males, but the incidence is less than 3%. This 3% primarily relates to practicing muslims and therapeutic circumcison (for infection etc). I work within the National Health Service, and there has been a great deal of ethical debate as to whether circumcision should be available on the NHS, and whether it is ethically sound to subject newborns, and young children, to invasive surgery, which is superfluous and carries the associated risks of any operation.
I have been asked to refer young children on for circumcision, and on each occassion the request was from a muslim family seeking tahara , or purification. Whilst the practice is still lawful in the UK, I take a conscientious objection to non-therapeutic circumcision, and as such, do not refer children for this procedure.
Ultimately, my view is that non-therapeutic circumcision amounts to needless battery, and whilst certain cultures may have religous, or psycho-social requests, these demands do not outweigh the fundamental human rights of the young, non-consenting, child.Wow those circumcision rates are low. Maybe its an American thing. I understand Jews and Muslims wanting to do it for religious reasons. But for me I don’t know any different. I don’t remember getting circumcised, I just know I am. And when we had our son, there was no debate he was going to be circumcised too. Insurance covered the procedure, even if it didn’t I would have paid for it. I guess it really is more of a social thing now more than anything. :-
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