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August 24, 2001 at 3:09 pm #45264
Alright Geeky Techer’s, let’s chat about "Stealth CD’s."
For those of you not in the know, I’ll give a rundown. Music licensers in Europe have been testing out new CDs called Stealth CDs. They are supposed to be boffo as far as copy protection goes. From reports I’ve hear, it uses RAW data sectors to actually corrupt slightly the music so that when it’s attempted to be copied it is either uncopiable or unlistenable in quality. This is much the same process as Playstation CDs, I believe.
The issue at hand is the slight corruption of the music. Lord knows, once these CDs are released in the US, 1337 programmers everywhere will find away around the copy protection, simply meaning the only outcome is musical corruption.
What do others think about this new format? Good, bad, indifferent? Also, any additional information or corrections to my info would be appreciated since I’m trying to get a grasp on this concept.
August 24, 2001 at 4:27 pm #82946Its a violation of Fair Use if you ask me. In assuming that I’m some kind of criminal that is going to widely distribute the material, they’re also telling me that I cannot make my own legal copies for my own use. [img]images/smiles/converted/mad.gif[/img]
The other thing is, from what I understand, the RIAA is claiming this method of placing errors into the CD as a form of encryption. This would make it illegal for manufacturers to created CD drives that could read the disks under the extremely vague Digital Millinium Copyright Act (DCMA.)
I’ve been following this pretty closely. Some people have suggested a massive ‘buy & return’ movement. Where people buy the CD’s and if they find out that they use this copy protection they immediately return it claiming that it doesn’t work in any of their CD players. Too many returns would make the retail outlets to lose money and it wouldn’t be worthwhile for them to carry them. It’d take a lot of people to get the idea rolling though, and given the your average Joe Sixpacks and boyband / Britney lovin teeny boppers are completely clueless about their rights as US citizens, and the fact the those rights appear to be shrinking, I don’t see it happening… [img]images/smiles/converted/rolleyes.gif[/img]
The RIAA is basing their implementation of this technology on a 4.4% decrease in CD sales, a decrease they (convieniently) blame on pirating. It seems to me that this decrease in sales is based on the recent decline in ecconomy, not to mention the fact that pop music has absolutely stagnated… I doubt any of the indie labels will be using this technology.
Here’s some articles on the issue for those of you not up to date:
Record labels plan copy-proof CDs (MSNBC)
Old code defeats new CD anti-ripping technologies (The Register)
U.S. music sales decline (MSNBC)
And some stuff on the old battle: [img]images/smiles/converted/wink.gif[/img]
August 24, 2001 at 4:31 pm #82947Yes, Matt, I think we agree. You covered alot more aspects of the issue then I did. I was mainly talking about the Fair Use violations, but also, this paragraph brought out some good points:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font>quote:</font><HR><STRONG>The other thing is, from what I understand, the RIAA is claiming this method of placing errors into the CD as a form of encryption. This would make it illegal for manufacturers to created CD drives that could read the disks under the extremely vague Digital Millineum Copyright Act (DCMA.)
</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>By errors, you are talking aobut the .raw sector data, right?
August 24, 2001 at 4:35 pm #82948Yes, purposely place errors in the raw data that a normal CD player will compensate for w/ error correction, but a CD drive will pick up when using a digital transfer.
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