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Ultimatum will be releasing the new J. & The Fog record

Forums › Forums › General Discussions › Open Topic › Ultimatum will be releasing the new J. & The Fog record

  • This topic has 18 replies, 11 voices, and was last updated 23 years, 4 months ago by FlyingCloud.
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  • August 8, 2002 at 9:49 pm #55244
    ovaldisc
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      yeah

      August 11, 2002 at 7:17 pm #55245
      RuBrick
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        Errr….

        Correct me if I am wrong but don’t the major lables sort of own the chain stores through marketing contracts? Therefore if what you want is a major promotional advertizing and distribution blitz you have to go to the major lables.

        I believe there was promotion done by Ultimatum in independent stores and used record stores.

        Didn’t they give away guitars and stuff?

        But a small record lable can’t be expected to pay out the "Payola." They are supposed to actually have some integrety if they are independent arn’t they?!?!?! I was under the impression that was the reason that Dino was on Homstead and SST in the begining. It was my understanding that while Green mind got good promotion, it was released a year late becase the major lable (I forget which…) rejected Js’ mix.

        I don’t know if integrety is the reason that J chose Ultimatum but their name kind of implies the same thing that the title of the album "Hand It Over" implies. Namely, give the artist their due finacially and control of thier product.

        But if Free So Free is potentially popular enough to provide a payoff for the investment of payola….

        Ehhh… So be it.

        August 11, 2002 at 7:37 pm #55246
        RuBrick
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          Also I think the MTV crowd got a little tired of J kicking their ass in skiing and golf.

          I don’t know what role the MTVers play in album promotion these days (I never really cared for MTV…) but I imagin it’s still pretty significant. I think the whole 90s indy rock revolution was the result of people getting music they saw on MTV rather then what they heard on the radio.

          I have not even glimpsed MTV lately but I imagin it is, like the chain stores, controled by the Majors.

          But then again didn’t Time/warner/(AOL?) go bankrupt the other day…. hay, HEY!! No credit, no payola!!!

          I read in the paper today that little Botaswana has a better credit rating then Japan… Maybe integrety can pay off better then payola!

          August 11, 2002 at 7:46 pm #55247
          FlyingCloud
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            hey RuBrick,
            you might not be totally wrong with your statement, but I think we all really wish that J receives the attention he deserves <img>
            And this attention is not only the result of "Payola", but it could also derive from a smart support and e.g. the right decision about the singles, etc. That’s possible with a smaller budget, too.

            City Slang in Europe is also not that big, and the market here is split in different countries and languages, but somehow they seemed to be more successful with their marketing strategies concerning More Light <img>

            That’s what I wish to happen with ‘Free so Free’ in the US (and Europe), too <img>

            <small>[ 08-11-2002, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: Flying Cloud ]</small>

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