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Yo,
Better stick to the rock and roll hall of fame, pal [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] !
I think if we can beat Favre ths weekend, sky’s the limit.
Tom
Hey Den,
In case Allison’s suitor forces Izzy to take a smoke break, http://www.mcphee.com.products/dontask/10727.html
‘Tings been kinda quiet around here lately, so I guess I would ramble a bit…..
Went used CD shopping yesterday. Found an interesting mix:
Joe Jackson–Summer in the City (Live In New York)
I have liked ol’ Joe since he was on MTV at its onset with songs like Steppin’ Out. Dude can flat play piano. He did covers of the title track, "Eleanor Rigby", and had "For Your Love" in one of 3 medleys.
Best tunes: "King of the World" and "One More Time". A good find for 5 bucks.Pussy Galore–Corpse Love The First Year
Never heard these folks before today. Always liked Royal Trux and what little I had heard from Jon Spencer was good. This album will need digesting. It is raw and the commentary is pretty funny at times.Sparklehorse-VIVADIXIESUBMARINETRANSMISSIONPLOT
On yawls suggestion, checked these guys out. Not bad. Sounds a lot like Flaming Lips but I need another listen or two to bring out the textures here, I think. Seems to be a lot beneath the surface.
Sky Cries Mary– Return to the Inner Experience
Bought this for the 1st time when it came out in 1993. Good music for tripping. I don’t trip anymore but this is still good for orbits and escapes. Nice cover of the Rolling Stones "2000 Light Years From Home".
Lemonheads– Come on Feel The Lemonheads.
Bought this so I can again learn how to preen [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]
Nah, I always liked this album. Good songwriting and the country twinges are nice, along with having a lot of Juliana Hatfield singing on it.
Put this on cassette tape for the car and am recording Hatfield’s "Become What You Are" on the flipside. Both fit on one 90 minute, thank goodness.Tom
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Good stories, Salami. Hope you heal soon.
Crazy experience, Rosa. Snowballs in hell. No chance.
Gave my speech today related to this thread. Here it is:
How the RIAA and consumers can coexist legally
and respectfullyTry to imagine your favorite record store closing its doors for good and that downloading your favorite band’s new record was a federal felony punishable by 10 years in prison? How about having to pay $50.00 per new release and having to buy it from a street gang or mafia-type outfit? Crazy? Impossible? No. Unless the Recording Industry Association of America changes its current practices and policies, we may all be buying our music from the mob.
The RIAA’s prosecuting of consumers and file-sharing services in order to protect their market is selfish, shortsighted and thus, ineffective. The Napster lawsuit spearheaded by heavy-metal band N’Sync…. I mean Metallica (used a transparency of Metallica from Garage Inc. showing them filthy dirty… this got huge laughs [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ) only resulted in new fee-based services that still get around copyrights. Prices on most CD’s and cassettes remain high enough to prompt consumer trafficking in mediums that deny the industry exorbitant profits.
Causes of the anti-market dynamic are social, economic and political in nature. According to Maxine Baca-Zinn and D. Stanley Eitzen, authors of the sociological textbook, In Conflict and Order, the powerless consumer both meets a want and punishes a corrupt industry who places profits over consumer concerns. Instead of admitting responsibility, the industry places blame on the consumer and reacts by labeling them as criminals and treating them as such.
Consumers spent over 14.5 billion dollars (US) in 1999 on sound recordings according to the U.S. Census Bureau. This equates out to about 2 percent of the 8 trillion plus Gross Domestic Product. While not seeming like much overall, pricing of individual units does not change for a consumer who takes in less personal income. The less fortunate consumer may be more tempted to gain their product by illicit means than those who can afford not to.
The RIAA uses lobbyists to push their causes through to law and to support politicians who are favorable to their causes. Additionally, the RIAA is a media-based organization that provides coverage and notoriety to various political candidates and office-holders. Like many other lobbying groups, the mutual interactions with government are of significantly higher priority than those with their source of revenue, the consumer.
To remedy these problems, the RIAA, including member record producers, distributors, and artists, should look into repricing individual units and furthering licensing agreements with Mp3 databases. The need for this plan is tremendous. According to both Billboard Magazine’s October 27th issue and FreakScene bulletin board, fan web-base of former Dinosaur Jr. Frontman J. Mascis (obligatory no-shame plug [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] ), the RIAA attempted to insert language into the PATRIOT anti-terrorist bill that would allow them to continue to modifiy PC’s of consumers who are found to upload pirated music. The RIAA vehemently denies the charges made by Billboard, yet acknowledges lobbying to be allowed to continue "protection by means of self-help measures". The Judiciary Committee rejected the new language and the RIAA’s attempts to except themselves from this bill. (The old law lets the RIAA cause up to $5000 worth of collateral damage to individual uploaders of pirated PC’s. The new law makes any amount of damage a crime.)
The music industries’ pricing system is antiquated and unlike any other industry that offers a similar market with new forms of product that eventually age. Bob Higgins, CEO of TransWorld Entertainment and John Marmaduke of Hastings Entertainment lean toward a dynamic pricing system, noting that prices remain the same even when sales drop. (The source here states this is so, because unlike videos and books, the opportunity to gain additional profits is driven by the first single released and then the second etc.. We know that should not be across the board, right?)
Borders VP Len Consimano states that unless volume compensates for lower prices, artists will continue to suffer. However, neither side proposes using the dynamics of one problem’s dynamics to affect another’s and vice-versa.The problem is two-fold yet unified by the ideal that the consumer is subject to be affected financially by paying higher and higher prices driven by RIAA’s pursuit of copyright protection and the industrie’s loss of overall profits by consumers unable or unwilling to meet rising costs. With consumer expenditures dropping by about $200,000,000 in 2000, the first loss in ten years, the industry must swallow its pride and its profits by continuing to invest money in licensing agreements with file-sharing services. If this trend continues, Mp3 income can provide a buffer neccesary to allow recordings to be repriced and for artists and other industry workers to get paid.
As stated, the RIAA needs to look at who pays their bills and decide if they are more important than those who have their own agendas to pursue. My hope is that we, as music lovers first, and consumers second, will be allowed to continue enjoying the work of entertainers and that entertainers will be allowed to continue enjoying their work.
Bibliography
BOOKS
Baca Zinn, Maxine and D. Stanley Etizen. In Conflict and Order. Boston. Allyn and Bacon, 2001. 180-182
Brue, Stanley L. and Campbell R. McConnell. Microeconomics. Boston. Irwin McGraw-Hill, 1999. G-8
Ginsberg, Benjamin, Theodore J. Lowi, and Margaret Weir.
We the People. New York. Norton, 1999. 415-423GOVERNMENT PUBLICATION
United States Bureau of Census. Profile of Consumer Sound Recordings: 1990-1999. 2000
INTERNET
FreakScene BBS. :Why the RIAA owes us all an apology." Online posting. <http>]www.freakscene.net/cgibin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=gettopic&f=16&t=000347&p=>[/url] Internet 19 Oct. 2001
Recording Industry Association of America. "Response to Billboard Article on Anti-Terrorism." RIAA. October 28, 2001 <http>]www.riaa.com>[/url] (28 Oct. 2001)
PERIODICALS
Christman, Ed. "Industry Debates CD prices and Destiny." Billboard. Oct. 20, 2001. 1-2
Christman, Ed. "Strong Staying Power Seen for CD’s Despite New Music Formats." Billboard. Oct. 20, 2001 76
Holland, Bill. "RIAA Criticized over Effort to Change Anti-Terrorist Bill." Billboard. Oct. 27, 2001. 10.
Yow. I didn’t think it would be this long in print. The spoken version was quite short only about 8 minutes. Thanks again all.
Tom
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Jasper,
Thanks for posting your review. The details in your post really convey the atmosphere, and the specialness that is going well out of your way to do something you really enjoy. I am ecstatic to hear J. and his GF perhaps "understood" that as well. Thanks again for the review and your presence here.Thanks for the review.
Half of those songs I could not imagine being done acoustically. Am excited to get a taste in Chicago.
Tom
Thanks for the heads up on the references, Cale.
I do not go to many concerts, thus my contacts with traders and leggers are nil, so just didn’t know the process really.
Whilst casing out your profile [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] , i decided to take a peek. That’s is all it was at this time, I’m afraid. Am a bit confused by the references part. What is that for?
I think it would be a great idea.
Perhaps this is the direction needed to satisfy the craving for the philo thing. If presented in the form of a diary, the reader will know the perspective originates from the poster and is not meant to alienate others, yet can still provide the outlet necessary for getting the "yah-yahs" out.
I would like to see it if/when you prop it up.
Tony,
Never saw the video, but did participate in some backyard stuff with a friend also. I used to slap the figure four on him and listen to the screams. He was bigger than me but it didn’t matter, that hold is crippling with the bone on bone contact.
Had some stooge in high school put the sleeper on me once. Found out that hold works too [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] .
I would have never attempted the stuff like Catus Jack used to do in his back yard. That dude was dropping elbows off of the top of his garage onto some kid laying on a matress in the back yard. Nuts to that….Those old Georgia Championship Wrestling/NWA shows on TBS with Gordon Solie were great. The first real fued I saw was Buzz Sawyer Vs, Tommy Rich. Those guys pulped each other in every type of match for a year or two.
Dick the Bruiser ran his own promotion cd the WWA in the 80’s. He had some fake Abdullah the Butcher come. I got close enough to kick him in the behind as he was coming up the aisle. He actually ran after me for a bit. That was good fun [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Jaron and Cale,
First off, I read one of Jaron’s old posts on a 6’6" bodyguard headlocking someone and Allison meeting Blackjack Lanza out of Cale’s thread gave me an excuse to make this thread. Sorry if the reference was not clear.
As far as me drinking, I wish I could use that as an explanation for irrational thought, but for the last three years and counting, I cannot. However, I have absolutely no problem offering the social cop-out of being unduly influenced and corrupted by an hodgepodge of my closest, well-meaning but offbase peers.
Jaron for Neurosurgeon General,
Tom [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Tony,
You ol’ ratchetbrain how ya doin [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] . Long time no hassle.
I don’t know about baby teeth, but I was more violent with em than without em I think.As smooth as you are, I’d figure you dentist would pay you just to hang around… hehehe
Not getting into the my yacht is bigger than your yacht deal, but our military made me have all four wisdom teeth removed before they would allow me to go overseas, then waited until I got there to do it. Go figure.
They had to cut them out as 3 of them had not even broke surface. Hurt like hell, (thank God for nitrous) and left 4 big holes. Luckily they closed up. Had to use a syringe to flush the bastards so they didn’t turn into dry sockets.
Enjoy your dinner….
Tom
