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June 19, 2007 at 4:44 pm in reply to: whats the different between big muff and guild foxy lady ped #129734
I don’t know about the Guild Foxey Lady as having anything to do with Mossrite but I suppose it’s possible that some of the earliest ones were repackaged Fuzzrite pedals.
What I do know off the top of my head is that Electro-Harmonix built at least three versions of the Guild Foxey Lady. The First E-H Foxey Lady was a repackaged version of a two knob fuzz pedal they made at the time callled an Axis Fuzz. The same thing happened with the first two versions of the Big Muff in the early ’70s. As for the differences, well they used the exact same circuit board but I think there were one or two minor differences in component values.
I read an interview back in the day where J said the title "Green Mind" came from a dream he’d had about sticking a marker pen in his ear and colouring his brain green and that the song is about alien abduction and/or frogs.
"AAAAAAAA " wrote:i’ve always wondered about the wagon sound.Yeah. You mean that kind of metallic whiring robot sitar sound of the rythm guitar and the weird clangy feedback at the end, right?
I’d really love to know how that sound came about."SonicD " wrote:nah , i meant the thing before, it looks like some crazy multieffectThis is one of J’s earlier switching systems used to control his FX. I think it was called "Quickchange Artist” by DW Labs (or something).
Yeah the suitcase is an earlier incarnation of the flightcased rack.
Also, around that time J used a pedal to switch on a monotonous voice that droned "Thank You. Thank You. Thank You etc." between songs so he didn’t have to actually address the audience (Ha!), so that’s probably what one of those other pedals does.
I always thought that the Strength Thru Oi T-shirt with long hair and hippy-ish beads look was genius.
I remember seeing J wearing a T-shirt with the slogan, "Everybody Loves Plastic Bags". Pretty funny.
I always hear "The Little Baby" as J mockingly imitating Lou. Lou being the recently departed screamer. The mellow mumbling phone conversation voice in the verse being J and the bawling tantrum in the chorus is baby Lou. Lou screaming down the phone was possibly fresh in J’s mind at this point.
Does J whisper "the bible, read the bible" before the evil noise out on this song?
If so ( I can’t definitively make it out) that’s hilarious.
It’s like he thought the track was so evil sounding that he pre-empted possible lawsuits the from parents of disfunctional suicidal teens by adding a "subliminal" "good" message.
"rage:man " wrote:"through a dozen layers and there’s no evil here only this great power we misunderstand"
I always heard that as "Truth doesn’t live and there’s……"
Here we go again.
I love everything on the first three records. On Green Mind, the snare sound on "Thumb" started to get on my nerves. I dislike the live version of "Keep the Glove" from "Whatever’s Cool With Me"
I almost never listen to "Where you been" I think I only really truly like "Out There"
"Get Me" and especially, "Goin’ Home". For some reason I was majorly disappointed by this record and never got into it.I like most of "Without a Sound" except "On the Brink" and "Get out of this"
I’m not really into a lot of "Hand it Over" either. I love "Gotta Know" "Mick" and the the first few tunes.
by the way, I think J’s great at choosing the last song on the record. I mean "Quest", "Poledo", "Don’t", "Green Mind" "Over Your Shoulder", "Gotta Know", "More Light" and "Outside" are all perfect endings.
That’s truly dreadful.
Hey, Another Girl,
Thanks for that. That’s pretty darn interesting.
I went thru a year long Smiths phase when I was 15. I totally O.D.ed and couldn’t listen to them for years afterwards and yeah the first time I saw Morrissey I was overwhelmed with the urge to attack. National Health glasses, hearing aid, pink paisley(?) shirt with a bunch of flowers sticking out the back of his levis. I mean, Ugh! About 18 months later I loved the guy. Funny how that so often happens.Thanks again.
About Without A Sound "Sucking". Personally the Dinosaur album I never go near is Where You Been. Without A Sound has a couple of duds on it but it’s better than Where you Been. Posssibly I only like Out There and Goin’ Home on that record. Before that I’d like every Dinosaur record apart from the snare sound on Thumb from Green Mind always got on my nerves.
1. Those shoes are vile in the extreme.
2. I think J’s ‘design’ is one of his more perverse jokes.
3. J would never wear those things. Dino mersh is usually good. I’m sure J would wear the various Dino T-shirts if he wasn’t J. You know what I mean, he wears those Wipers and Electro-Harmonix shirts.
4. To all those who understandably avoid Nike for ethical reasons and laud the Chuck Taylor’s, Um, I’m sure I read somewhere that Nike bought Converse a couple of years ago.
(Edit: Duh, sorry Mr Bateman, you already mentioned point #4 )
There are loads of different Big Muffs around and they all sound different.
The original triangle knob BMs had fs37000 and fs69000 transistors (I think) whatever the fuck they are.Try searching for ’em.
The second version with Big Muff printed in the art nouveau style letters like the early Dinosaur logo used
2N5133 , BC239, and Later 2N5088Some of the 2nd version enclosures were used to house the version 3 circuit during the transition.
The third version (looks like the NYC reissue) also used 2N5088s but changed the resistors from carbon comps to more modern ones.
Also a version with IC chips was brought out in the early ’80s
There was the original Little Big Muff with on Knob and an IC chip and a mains powered Deluxe Big Muff that incorporated the Soul Preacher Compressor with the Muff.
The first Russian Sovtek Big Muffs were called The Red Army distortion. This was followed by a cream and blue powder coated Sovtek Big Muff ?. There then followed about three different green ones and then the black.
I have one version 2 and one version 3 both have 2N5088s (the version 2 hasthe edge), an orig Little Big Muff (which is crazy loud but sounds good) and a couple of the deluxes which are the least loud.
They’re all good and all different. There are lots of makers of high quality clones too. If you search around you’ll find sites with info on how to make your own.
I bought a used DW re-issue of The Dan Armstrong Orange Squeezer compressor (from eBay).
The first time I used it it sounded fine. But after I touched the internal trimpots that adjust level and compression the box just quit compressing and only boosts level. I never managed to get it to work right again ever. I even took it to a tech.Total crap, avoid.
I’ve since read others saying pretty much the same thing.
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