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"fata morgana " wrote:Yes, let’s not forget that, at the time, dance hall music was a lot more popular. Interesting comment about social restraint or racism, though. I think Duke Ellington began in dance hall music before turning towards jazz.
When jazz hit in the `20s,people railed against it like rock and roll in the `50s.Parents were worried that their kids would get into it.The term ‘jazz’ had a dirty meaning which did`nt help.Some dance hall bands had a tinge of jazz when they could get away with it.Ellington wanted jazz to be regarded as genuine music like the classics.
"curbdogma " wrote:It’s kinda cool to know that alot of Jazz musicians didnt need to sing, which could have something to do with the social restraint and victimizing society at the time. Did John Coltrane have a singer in his band? Did most Jazz bands?Singers in jazz got off to a slow start in the 20s and `30s.Most of the singers of the day were not jazz singers.Just pop singers who thought they were cool.As Artie Shaw said ‘singers did`nt mean a goddamn thing back then,they were the junk end of a band’.Singers like Billie Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald took things in a better direction though some jazz fans are`nt always into singers.
Coltrane did 1 album with a singer in 1963.An album with Johnny Hartman was odd for Coltrane and the critical disappoval he had at the time as an ‘angry player’.Hartman was a crooner and the album was full of love songs."fata morgana " wrote:My dad has a good collection of Coltrane. I only have "A Love Supreme" and it’s not my favorite. I think "India" is on Impressions. And that’s the tune that does it for me.India is also on the Live At The Village Vanguard reissue from the `90s.There`s a 4 cd box set of those live recordings too.
A Love Supreme is my favorite though it might be because it was my first Trane album.Mills Blue Rhythm Band-1933/34
Cab Calloway-Early Years 1930-34
Duke Ellington-Mrs Clinkscales To The Cotton Club
Boswell Sisters-1932Wayne Shorter-Juju
Sebadoh-Bakesale
Fats Navarro-Fat Girl
Artie Shaw-Complete Gramarcy Five Recordings
