[bob]

I guess that just leaves time fades away as being not on CD? Some people like that one too but it was really hated at the time. I wasn’t too impressed with it when I downloaded it.

Is "Long May You Run" by Stills-Young any good? (the album, not the song)

[bob]

buckingham rabbit > is the velvet underground – velvet underground. The velvet underground & nico or VU or something else?

[bob]

yeah I’ve been listening to "fear yourself".

that one song. I love you but your breaking my heart I love you and your tearing me apart…

[bob]

No way can I listen to liz phair, that was my girlfriends favorite. It hurts to see her in magazines now and see her reviews

[bob]

forgot about No Way. That song is not on my Free So Free but it’s kickass!!!

I brought free so free with me to listen to on the way to and from work today to give another listen.

Say the word: hate the lyrics, maybe it would help if I knew what it’s about. I had this teacher in grade 7 that always said "hey people" and it was really annoying and we made fun of him alot. The guitar playing/solo section is amazing but the part with the lyrics, the chicken scratch guitr, and the jokey little riff at the end just make it seem silly. But the instrumental part, f__ yeah!

[bob]

Here are the top 102 so far. The Polls Are Close for those of us who have voted so far except for Long Distance Drunk and Flying Cloud who can add to their lists but not change what they have already.

Dinosaur Jr Bug 360
Dinosaur Jr You’re Living All Over Me 292
Sebadoh Bakesale 278
My Bloody Valentine Loveless 264
Built To Spill Keep It Like A Secret 258
Modest Mouse The Lonesome Crowded West 258
Modest Mouse The Moon and Antarctica 236
Dinosaur Jr Where You Been 236
Pavement Slanted & Enchanted 232
Pixies Surfer Rosa 216
Sleater-Kinney Dig Me Out 215
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation 198
J Mascis & The Fog More Light 198
Buffalo Tom Let Me Come Over 189
Neutral Milk Hotel In The Aeroplane Over The Sea 186
Dinosaur Jr Without A Sound 186
Pavement Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain 183
Dinosaur Jr Green Mind 173
Guided By Voices Alien Lanes 159
Silkworm Firewater 151
Dinosaur Jr Hand It Over 146
Built To Spill Ancient Melodies Of The Future 142
Built To Spill There’s Nothing Wrong With Love 141
The Flaming Lips Yoshimi Vs. The Pink Robots 133
Neil Young Rust Never Sleeps 131
Pixies Doolittle 129
Minor Threat Complete Discography 128
Weezer Pinkerton 127
The Velvet Underground Velvet Underground And Nico 125
Built To Spill Perfect From Now On 118
Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 118
Minutemen Double Nickels On The Dime 113
The Flaming Lips The Soft Bulletin 108
The Ramones Rocket to Russia 102
Guided By Voices Bee Thousand 100
Husker Du New Day Rising 99
The Karl Hendrix Trio For A While It Was Funny 99
Miles Davis Kind Of Blue 98
J Mascis & The Fog Free So Free 97
John Coltrane A Love Supreme 96
Drop Nineteens Delaware 94
Dinosaur Jr Dinosaur 94
The Replacements Let It Be 94
Fugazi 13 Songs 93
Eleventh Dream Day Lived To Tell 93
The Weakerthans Left and Leaving 92
Charles Mingus Right Now At The Jazz Workshop 92
Bad Religion Against The Grain 92
Spinanes Manos 91
Niki Sudden Texas 91
Ben Folds Five The Unauthorized Biography Of Reinhold Messner 91
Red Red Meat Jimmy Wine Majestic 90
Gun Club Miami 90
Radiohead OK Computer 90
Bill Evans Sunday At The Village Vanguard 89
Jeffrey Lee Pierce Wildweed 89
Fugazi The Argument 89
St. Johnny Speed Is Dreaming 88
The Weakerthans Fallow 87
Go-Betweens Liberty Belle And The Black Diamond Express 87
Eric’s Trip Love Tara 87
Weezer Weezer (1994) 87
Sonny Rollins The Bridge 86
Sleater-Kinney One Beat 86
Versus Dead Leaves 85
My Bloody Valentine Isn’t Anything 85
Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness 85
Rancid …And Out Come The Wolves 85
The Associates Sulk 84
The Flaming Lips Transmission From The Satellite Heart 84
…And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead Source Tages & Codes 83
Yo La Tengo Electr-O-Pura 82
The Seeds Raw & Alive 82
Public Enemy It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 82
Come Don’t Ask Don’t Tell 81
Gun Club Fire Of Love 81
Beulah Handsome Western States 81
Neil Young Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 81
Johnny Griffin A Blowin Session vol 1 80
The Clash London Calling 80
Sonic Youth Murray Street 79
Throwing Muses The Real Ramona 79
Wilco Summer Teeth 78
Blind Willie Johnson The Complete 78
Sunny Day Real Estate The Rising Tide 78
Husker Du Zen Arcade 78
Rolling Stones Exile On Main Street 77
The Fall Perverted By Language 77
The White Stripes White Blood Cells 77
Dire Straits Love Over Gold 76
Neil Young On The Beach 76
The Raincoats The Raincoats 76
Palace Brothers Days In The Wake 75
Gun Club The Las Vegas Story 75
The Jesus And Mary Chain Psychocandy 74
Uncle Tupelo Still Feel Gone 74
Pavement Watery Domestic 74
PJ Harvey Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea 74
Sonic Youth Goo 73
Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream 73
Richard Buckner Since 73
The Karl Hendrix Trio Misery & Women 73

so far.. 4 voters
320 votes
265 artists

Bakesale, Bug, and Surfer Rosa were voted for by all 4 voters

[bob]

I have to admit I agree with you JayDee. J has has "jumped the shark" in my mind with Free So Free.

Set Us Free
Free So Free
Outside

those 3 are amazing but the rest of it??? Too much dumb "rock and roll" type stuff. J seems to have become a charicature of himself and in some cases a complete mockery. I always listen to his music as an "alternative" to souless crap but "Say The Word". Fuck. It sounds like a recording some Guitar World editor made in his basement.

Dinosaur Jr was always the one band who I liked every single song.

I think should play slower solos. He is just firing off hundreds of notes it doesn’t have the passion that the solos on, say, Where You Been, had.

I don’t know about the freedom theme either. I’m not calling J dumb, I think he is a very intelligent but misunderstood guy but I think he shouldn’t try tackle that subject matter

I think J should try something completely different next time. He should have continued on in the directon started with Without A Sound. A studio acoustic record would be great. I also think he should try have someone else do the producing/mastering of his albums.

[bob]

the freaksceners choice 100 best albums, ever. data collection thread is up http://www.freakscene.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=4385
go nuts and have fun

[bob]

Don’t fuss too much about your exact order because with the points system and everyone being added together it won’t matter much

[bob]

Here is my list.

1 Dinosaur Jr You’re Living All Over Me
2 Dinosaur Jr Bug
3 Pavement Slanted & Enchanted
4 Pixies Doolittle
5 My Bloody Valentine Loveless
6 Pavement Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
7 Buffalo Tom Let Me Come Over
8 Dinosaur Jr Without A Sound
9 The Weakerthans Left and Leaving
10 Built To Spill Perfect From Now On
11 Modest Mouse The Lonesome Crowded West
12 Dinosaur Jr Where You Been
13 St. Johnny Speed Is Dreaming
14 The Weakerthans Fallow
15 Neutral Milk Hotel In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
16 Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness
17 The Flaming Lips Transmission From The Satellite Heart
18 Neil Young Rust Never Sleeps
19 Modest Mouse The Moon and Antarctica
20 Beulah Handsome Western States
21 Superchunk Come Pick Me Up
22 Throwing Muses The Real Ramona
23 Wilco Summer Teeth
24 Built To Spill Keep It Like A Secret
25 Neil Young On The Beach
26 Dinosaur Jr Green Mind
27 Pavement Watery Domestic
28 Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream
29 Built To Spill There’s Nothing Wrong With Love
30 The Flaming Lips Yoshimi Vs. The Pink Robots
31 Bob Dylan Greatest Hits v2
32 Bob Dylan Greatest Hits v1
33 Pixies Bossanova
34 Silkworm Firewater
35 Death Cab For Cutie We Have The Facts and We’re Voting Yes
36 Sonic Youth Sister
37 The Flaming Lips The Soft Bulletin
38 Beulah When Your Heartstrings Break
39 R.E.M. Lifes Rich Pagent
40 My Bloody Valentine You Made Me Realise
41 Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
42 Built To Spill Ancient Melodies Of The Future
43 J Mascis & The Fog More Light
44 Weezer Pinkerton
45 Nirvana Nevermind
46 Pavement Wowee Zowee
47 Weezer Weezer (1994)
48 Buffalo Tom Smitten
49 Superchunk Indoor Living
50 Green Day Dookie
51 Modest Mouse Building Nothing Out Of Something
52 Neil Young Zuma
53 Pavement Brighten The Corners
54 Dinosaur Jr Hand It Over
55 Smashing Pumpkins Pisces Iscariot
56 Crooked Fingers S/T
57 Superchunk On The Mouth
58 The Shins Oh, Inverted World
59 Neil Young Tonites The Night
60 Lemonheads It’s A Shame About Ray
61 Sebadoh Bakesale
62 Portastatic Slow Note From A Sinking Ship
63 R.E.M. Green
64 Buffalo Tom S/T
65 Archers of Loaf Vee Vee
66 Stephen Malkmus S/T
67 Treble Charger "NC17"
68 Frank Black Dog In The Sand
69 All-Time Quarterback S/T
70 Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
71 Wilco A.M.
72 Foo Fighters The Colour And The Shape
73 Buffalo Tom Sleepy Eyed
74 Pixies Surfer Rosa
75 Superchunk Here’s Where The String Come In
76 Galaxie 500 The Portable Galaxie 500
77 Superchunk No Pocky For Kitty
78 Wilco Being There
79 Yo La Tengo Painful
80 Sonic Youth Goo
81 Neil Young Sleeps With Angels
82 The Flaming Lips Hit To Death In The Future Head
83 R.E.M. Reckoning
84 Portastatic The Nature Of Sap
85 Sonic Youth A Thousand Leaves
86 Tom Daily Tragedy Of Fanbelts
87 Sebadoh Bubble and Scrape
88 Neil Young Harvest
89 Urge Overkill Exit The Dragon
90 R.E.M. Automatic For The People
91 Nirvana In Utero
92 The Flaming Lips Clouds Taste Metallic
93 Archers of Loaf Icky Mettle
94 Sonic Youth Dirty
95 Hum You’d Prefer An Astronaut
96 The Get Up Kids Something To Write Home About
97 Neil Young After The Gold Rush
98 Sonic Youth Evol
99 The Flaming Lips In A Priest Driven Ambulance
100 The Promise Ring Nothing Feels Good

[bob]

okay thanks. I’ll check into things and keep you in mind.

yahoo website service do have secure directories. I could use MIVA script to write to file.

Isn’t sending the information by email once it’s submitted sort of defeating the purpose of security or is an email sent from an SSL page pretty secure?

[bob]

first off. thank you very much for your help anthony.

My site works by setting cookies and uses javascript to calculate totals and shipping costs. Just for your information, that shouldn’t matter.

My question is what usually happens when personal/order info is submitted on a e-commerce site? Our site sends an email to us with the information. What would most sites do? have a password protected forum that holds all their orders? Do I need a cgi/bin (remember I’m a windows user who doesn’t have his own server). I don’t really know what I’m talking about but I hope you know what I mean. Basically, how does the company receive the information.

[bob]

It’s written using MIVA script. which is an XML like language that lets you create dynamic pages with data files. It’s a basic HTML form for the personal information, the MIVA action sends an email with all the variables from the fields to us.

What exactly could happen to sensitive info? How can someone else see it? I assume it would be something like: somebody runs a script on the page that capture the data whenever it is submitted.

Can you tell me a little more about SSL certificates?

[bob]

I think we should allow EPs. (watery domestic!) I’m not sure about greatest hits or various artists discs but maybe they should be.

I think this should be a list of your personal favorite uncorrupted by what you think is really important or influental or what the critics might say. You know what I mean – don’t put Pet Sounds or Sgt. Peppers on there unless you really think they are the greatest albums ever in your opinon (which they could be)

[bob]

the dears

go see this band if you have the chance.

thedears.org

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