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July 19, 2005 at 4:08 pm in reply to: Why Moshers/ Crowd Surfers Are Annoying Assholes, pt 1 #111118
I personally don’t see how one could go to a live show, be into the music, and NOT move. It amazes me how people can just stand there while incredible art and energy are flowing all around them – especially at a show where the music is more aggressive. I don’t know how it is in other cities, but people pretty much stopped moshing in Toronto in the late ’90s, and it’s never been the same since. We’re a pretty jaded crowd, I think.
I personally like moshing at shows, because I get off on the energy of the crowd as much as the energy onstage. I agree that nowadays if people are moving, they seem to be more the drunken fratboy types that are deliberately trying to be aggressive, rather than people just _really_ into the music. There used to be an unspoken pit etiquette: don’t flail uncontrollably and accidentally punch someone; if you’re surfing you keep your boots up so you don’t kick people in the head. If someone fell down, there were always scores of hands reached out to help them back up. If somebody wanted out, people would clear the way. 99% of the time there was this incredible comeraderie between hundreds of people who didn’t know each other – look out for everybody, and have fun. The only thing that really bothered me (as a woman), were when guys would use the closeness and anonymity as an opportunity to grab tits. There are jackasses in every crowd, I guess.
When people start moving, you know what to expect – you can move out of the way, or you can join ’em. I’ve had bruises all over my back countless times from being at the front with a raging pit behind me, and honestly it never took away from my enjoyment one bit. I guess I get so into the show that nothing can distract me.
I’ve still got scars from seeing the Ramones.

Hey man, they’re Dinosaur…they’re LOUD. That said, I forgot to bring ear plugs – I was right at the front and tried to get some when Lou gave the jar of ’em to the bouncer to give people, but I couldn’t snag a pair. 24h later my head is still ringing and I’m sure I’m talking louder than necessary. But my fault; I knew what to expect, and stood right at the front anyways. The mixing did suck, though…vocals were almost entirely lost, at least from where I was.
I’ve always had a massive crush on J so I’m maybe a little biased, but I enjoyed the show. They played most of what I wanted to hear….J wasn’t enthused at all, but that’s nothing new. I saw him in a solo acoustic show at the Opera House sometime around ’96 or ’97 and while it was awesome, it wasn’t all that memorable because he never seems to be enthusiastic. There was such a crowd difference from seeing shows in the 90’s to seeing them now – nobody really moves! I don’t really see how you could be into the music and just STAND there, but I guess I’m just a child of the moshing era. I miss the energy of the entire crowd being of one mind, in tune with everyone else, and whenever that is lacking, the concert itself always lacks a little bit. But damn, J plays a mean guitar, and Murph and Lou rocked out. It seemed like they felt obligated to do "Freak Scene" during the encore, but I was glad to hear it anyway. No major complaints about the show.
Was it really Lou’s birthday? Singing to him was a cute touch.
I’m so glad I FINALLY got to see Dinosaur live – I don’t think I could ever get enough.
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