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I think of the more sophisticated Drum and Bass tracks and Acid Jazz as the most interesting forms of contemporary Jazz. Or the last CD from St. Germain, where he combined Miles Davis soundalikes with French Deep House. Very nice.
I don´t reckon the current indie scene is any better or worse than at any other time. It´s just, that the older you get, it takes more to exite you. At least in my case. When I was 20, 22, I had a new favourite band every week and I thought that everyone was a genius -musicwise- if they could hold their guitars the right way round. But the more you´ve heard, the more you know, the more you´re reminded of things you´ve heard before and it´s hard to get exited about some bands who try to sound like the Smiths/Stooges/Sonic Youth ect, if you have heard it all a million times before. Guess, that´s sad, cause we should support new and upcoming bands, cause they really need it. But what can you do?
gruss
d<BLOCKQUOTE><font>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Javro:
. First time I heard Brassneck I thought they were awful, but then when they released a single every month of the year and stuck them all on an album, every track was a killer.
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Actually, the Single compilation I got was not the Hitparade thing, but some American only thing (the reason why I hadn´t bought it already) comprising the Bizarro/Seamonsters singles (including Brassneck, now what is a Brassneck actually, can anyone shed some light here?), and some rare and live stuff. But yes David Gedge voice certainly is not everyones cup of tea; actually most of the folks I know in Britain hate the Wedding Present cause they can´t stand the singing.
You must by now be fed up with my constant references to my American trip, but hey, it was such an important experience to me, and now so many things relate to it. So work with me here and since Jeremiah listed Grandaddys Sophtware Slump not so long ago, I can´t help myself and simply have to tell you how appropiate those songs are to listen to when you cruise through the Californian National Parks. We even drove past the Crystal Lake. It was perfect.
gruss
dHey Salamiguy
I actually got Cannonballs stab at Bossa Nova 4 months ago for a mere 15 Deutsch Marks. Now that´s something like 7 US Dollars. I already knew some of the tracks from various compilations and I´m not a big fan of Cannonballs saxplaying. Too straightforward for me. But Sergios pianostyle is great as ever.
Recently I got a double CD from Bud Shank (the Bossa Nova Years) which is much better. Bud Shank did some work with Laurindo Almeida in the 50s. They recorded the Braziliance Vol 1 & 2 albums before the term Bossa Nova existed. More Jazz than Samba actually but still worth listening to. Anyway, this other Bud Shank double CD compiles recordings from the early sixties and has Sergio Mendes on several tracks. Bud Shank plays flute and Saxophone, so there is a bit of variation.
Great Stuff.
Some thoughts about buying CDs in general. Jobrelated I have to move around a bit (like from next month on I work in Hamburg) and lugging your CD collection with you is a real pain in the ass. Mind you, vinyl is even harder and I noticed that in recent years I no longer feel the urge to own everything that takes my fancy. Try to concentrate on the things that really do something new for me and otherwise feel really good spending money on things that you don´t have to carry home (gigs, cinema, clubs, ect). Gosh, I felt so free when I threw most of my books away, cause I realised I won´t read them again; rather read some new stuff.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 21, 2001 08:38 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
No, actually I was dead serious for a change. If we got all the same rating, where would be the fun in that. We might as well have no rating at all. Nothing wrong with stepping on someones toes every once in a while. Metaphorically speaking. I like a bit of abuse myself, as long as they don´t kick or hit you, but no chance of that here. I mean, if you´re liked by everyone, I reckon you must be rather boring. But maybe I´m just envious.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 21, 2001 08:00 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
1) the wedding present – singles 89-91. One of the very few CDs I bought in America. Got that at the Cinerama gig from David Gedge himself. Only $10,- for a double CD. What a bargain. Shows the Wedding Present really at their peak. Most of the songs were produced by Steve Albini and he really brought out the best in them. That soaring guitars are so perfect. Including their Pavement cover of Box Elder, the Tom Jones Cover of It´s not Unusual and the Velvet Undergrounds She´s my best friend. Brilliant.
2. Break´n´Bossa Volume 4. Italian Compilation of contemporary clubtunes with a brazilian flavour. Kids, it´s just that time of the year. So relaxed and cheerful. Get the cocktails ready.
3. Elvis` greatest hits from the 60s. Never been a big fan of Elvis, but since I´ve been to Graceland and shed some tears at his grave I appreciate the whole schmalziness of him. Return to Sender, It´s now or Never, Devil in Disguise and the spoken part of Are you lonesome tonight? are so hilarious. Gotta love that.
4. Easy Tempo vol.7 (I think). Soundtracks of Italian Soft Pornos from the late 60s/early seventies. More cheesy listening. Lots of Hammond Organ and more Samba beats.
It´s summertime.
5. Boss Hog (95). Still my favourite album of the last decade. Have to have some noisy stuff after all this mellow swinging. Works every time.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 20, 2001 12:28 PM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
Thanks for the Gil Evans recommendation. Will give that a listen very soon.
Because of the cool-tunes-for-commercial-topic I was reminded of the brilliance of Perez Prado. Lou Bega slaughtered his Mambo No. 5 but don´t let that put you off. Perez invented the Mambo Rock back in the 50s/60s and he did some really great stuff. Not all of his records are indispensable, but since he recorded such a lot, I´m willing to forgive him for the few lame ones.
More Trivia: At the end of Jack Kerouacs On The Road, when the two guys go down to Mexico and spend their days in the brothel, they listen to Perez Prado all the time.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 20, 2001 05:16 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
Actually, I recently saw a beer commercial that used Guaglione from Perez Prado for the soundtrack. It´s such a great song and the commercial was quite funny, so nothing wrong with that. Really, commercials are not all that bad; they are one of the foundations of capitalism, and therefore one of the pillars of democracy, and can there be something more revarding than contributing to Freedom, Egalité and Fraternity?!
Although, I`m willing to have a small bet that Jello Biafra would disagree.
gruss
dI seem to have lost my ratings altogether, but that´s not the point. At the latest count I was down to four, but then I had a look what the others got and noticed that almost everyone sported five stars, so having four made me feel really special. But being so desperate for individuality, I shall make it my ambition to drop to three. Now wouldn´t that be something.
gruss
dYeah, Cal Tjader did good stuff well into the 80s. I like his uptempo numbers best. There was this Japanese band called Mambossa who were heavily influenced by Cal Tjader. To my knowledge they released only one CD in the mid 90s, but it´s really worth having. Great Mambo/Bossa Nova versions of Charade and The Lady is a Tramp.
Since two years I´m trying to get my hands on a record from Laurindo, where he recorded as Laurindo Almeida and the Bossa Nova Allstars, but so far had no luck.
Ellis Reginas voice really doesn´t do much for me and Tom Jobim did his best stuff when he kind of worked in the background for others. Definately not a gifted singer.
Herbie Mann (flute) did some Bossa Nova albums (Mendes and Jobim on them) which are quite good. Actually, Herbie Mann teamed up with Stereolab for their One Note Samba/Surfboard medley.
Well worth checking out.
Enough namedropping for now.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 19, 2001 11:29 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
Ahh, Salamiguy, now we´re getting to the core of this. See, if you didn´t mention the Jazz stuff you like because you weren´t sure how people would react, cause some rock freaks even -shhhhhhhhh- hate Jazz. Well, that´s their problem, not yours. I couldn´t care less really. I mean, probably the list of bands everyone lists as their favourite is so predictable and boring because people mention bands that they think will go down well with the rest of the community and not really the things they like. I mean the fact that Jeremiah listens to Edith Piaf says more about himself (and makes him ultimatively more interesting in my view) than all the bands he listed as his favourites (before he changed it quite recently), though I like all of them. So, yes, please more of the unusual.
gruss
dPS: And the attitude of ELJ generally makes polls even more boring and predictable.
<FONT>[ July 19, 2001 08:13 AM: Message mutated 2 times, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
Funny thing, almost everyone we met looked down on us because most of the time Milwaukees Best was the drink of our choice. Well, partly because it´s so cheap, but then again it´s much closer to the Beer brewed here according to the German purity Law. Meaning you aren´t allowed to use additives or artificial flavouring. Budweiser comes closest though and we had that every once in a while. Doesn´t mean that I want everything to be like it is back home, but I have to admit that some of those heavily flavoured American beers are not my cup of tea.
The ID thing is really such a pain in the ass. We went to see Cinerama at the Crocodile Café in Seattle and the bouncer wouldn´t let me in. I mean, I had my driving licence and my German ID with me, but this tosser insisted that he needed my passport. And remember, I´m 34. So we had to walk all the way back to the hostel, to get my passport (Fortunately it was quite close). What a hassel.
When I was 11 I saw Status Quo in Germany and had no problems to get in whatsoever. Hey, I was 11, so no insults about the Status Quo bit. OK?!
gruss
dBut Salamiguy. What do you think is the use of your profile if you don´t put in the Jazz stuff you like. I mean, this profile should give the others an idea what you´re like. Some INFORMATION! Something that distinguishes you from all the other guys on this board. See, because you post on this site we take it you like Dinosaur Jr.; so we might have guessed that you also have a soft spot for Buffalo Tom, Hüsker Dü, my bloody Valentine. They are all related to Dinosaur in one way or the other. Same with Sebadoh, Sonic Youth, Nirvana to pick some bands at random. So that doesn´t give you any profile at all. Or is it conformity that we want?
gruss
dSorry, suddenly had the feeling I might spell Jeremiah wrong and I know how people can be really sensitive about this kind of thing.
And of course, you don´t like a band only because of the exotic nature of their members, but because, by definition the music is bound to be just a little bit different. See, the last festival I attended, I gradually got fed up with this alternative rock thing. Not because I don´t like it, but because at one point it became all a bit repetitive and I was really grateful for Calexico, Stereolab and the Chemical Brothers to perform, cause there was at least a bit of variation.
And frankly, I realised that this list represented the members taste and not yours. But that was my point. Like, whenever you have a poll at the end of the year, like best band of 2000, I always wish they would list more than the first ten or twenty, cause really, if you read past the predictable Radioheads and Smashing Pumpkinsens ect., that´s when it starts to get interesting. Otherwise it´s just another form of mainstream.
And indeed, if we could choose from a list, where the bands at least fulfill on of the characteristics I found missing in this one, I´m sure it would be slightly more interesting, cause you might come across a new band that you could dicover for yourself and not just the same old dross that we have listened to for the last ten years.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 18, 2001 10:40 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
dear Jerry.
Why so defensive. You will be thrilled to learn that -yes indeed- I figured out that the damn thing was there because of a request and that you were testing another feature; but tell me, is there a rule that you can´t find requests boring (and complain bitterly about them).
Point is, in my very first posting (9 months or so ago) I basically reacted to the same thing. There was this guy asking the other members about their faves beside J and every reply was a namedropping of the usual suspects. I mean, there wasn´t that much variety, bearing in mind the whole range of music that there is. Like the 20 bands you have listed here. Really, how many black people you find in those bands, how many women (5, me thinks), how many who don´t sing in English or use the bass, drums, guitar formular. I know I´m repeating myself but variety is the spice of life.
gruss
d<FONT>[ July 18, 2001 09:49 AM: Message mutated 1 time, lastly by dimpfelmoser ]</font>
I´m sorry but this is utterly boring. What is the use of a poll like this? We all know the outcome, don´t we?! People into Dinosaur Jr. also like Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Sebadoh, ect, ect; big surprise!! Gosh, that is so obious and predictable. Why not have a poll like: What is your favourite Band/Artist beside J that doesn´t involve white boys strumming guitars. Now that would be much more interesting.
gruss
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